Bananas or spades?

Discussion in 'System and Room Tweaks' started by Try1256, Dec 26, 2017.

  1. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator

    Bare wire is a young man's game. ;)

    Us old guys want convenience. ;)
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  2. MikeT.

    MikeT. Senior Member

    Agree with that 100%. Too much bending over or crawling around with bare wire, unless of course you have stand mount speakers. With bananas, whoop, there it is!! :biggrin:;)
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  3. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator

    Amen to that.

    The knees, neck and lower back ain't what they used to be. ;) :)
  4. I've got some of those - Pomona dual Bananas! They've got some set screws to tighten down on the wires but they can be a bit wonkely.

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  5. Fran604g

    Fran604g Junior Member

    Another problem is the size of the wire gets cramped if too large. I like to use no smaller than 18ga.

    Those set screws will come loose.
  6. Ernie

    Ernie Active Member

  7. JP

    JP Junior Member

    I use bare when I don't need convenience. You want a gas-tight seal on the mating surfaces, which malleable copper torqued down a bit under a binding post gives you.

    BMWCCA Junior Member

    Since finding them to terminate my 6-Moons White Lighting cable project, I always recommend Neutrik dual bananas. For something from Neutrik they are extremely affordable, come in several colors, and will accept large wires gracefully with an integrated strain-relief/lock. Very well thought-out and I've owned probably every Pomona-style dual banana I could find. Among the worst were the Monsters where the huge thumb screw would invariably come loose.

    Here are the Neutriks used in my 6-Moons White Lightening project:
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  9. dowto1000

    dowto1000 Junior Member

    Bananas need to be avoided, except in your diet for trace minerals.

    Its basically an instrument connector, not an audio connector. A locking banana is a bit better, but the whole concept is wrong, and bettered by bare wire - or PROPER spades. Unfortunately, they don't make the Gold XLO spades any more.... proper spades.

    We can not solder-in speaker wires. ONE place in the system, we need the ability to reverse phase to properly hear back program material recorded out of absolute phase.

    In 2018, all my system wiring is soldered ( multiple paralleled runs of m22759/11 12 AWG ) except at the amp's output, where I use vintage XLO spades, Wonder Soldered, and Cardas Speaker posts from Percy.

    Have fun, I do !!

    Dowto1000....not 26,000.
  10. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator

    @dowto1000 - I remember the old XLO spade connectors. Really robust.

    You can really get a solid connection.
  11. Prime Minister

    Prime Minister Site Owner

    What's an XLO spade?
  12. SPL db

    SPL db Junior Member

    The speaker cables I have use pin connectors terminated at the ends which works great with the five way binding posts.
  13. ICTWoody

    ICTWoody Junior Member

    I use both. I prefer banana's for their ease of use. I prefer the wave style ones that have a much larger contact area than the segmented kind of banana's.

    If a rig is going to be setup for a long time, and not one of my rigs I'm constantly tweaking and swapping on, I'll use some Caig product to protect the contacts a bit.

    In my main rig I use both banana's and spades on the amp ends cause I'm running a true bi-wire setup. One set of speaker cables gets clamped down on the amp end and run to the low inputs on my speakers, and then banana's plug into the binding posts and run to the high input. It's banana-to-banana on the HF, and spade-to-banana on the LF. I guess I'm pretty equal opportunity.

    - Woody

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