I am falling out of love with my pre Amp

Discussion in 'Everything Audio' started by S0und Dragon, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Glad I am in good company then!
     
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  2. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

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  3. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Confirmed that it is indeed the National brand 7DJ8. Won’t get to hear them till the weekend however. I am still waiting on the Refectors to arrive so Freya remains in place. Going to hunt down a quad of new production Tung Sol 6SN7.

    Freya sounds quite good and for the money is hard to beat. I still suspect that I would prefer the Peach II if I can keep her quiet. Yet if I can get a little more tube sparkle from a certain brand of tubes, this may be Freya’s win. Either way, it’s going to take a little while longer.
     
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  4. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Some shots of the National tubes you ask? Why sure!

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  5. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Letting the Peach warm up for a sec. So far it is quiet but not completely silent. But I have to put my ear to the speaker to hear the tube rush like noise. I will say that I can not remember if it was ever this quiet before. I am hopeful.
     
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  6. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Oh damn.....this is sounding very good. A little bass heavy, but just wow. Just more of everything that this pre does well.
     
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  7. fiddlefye

    fiddlefye Senior Member

    Super! If my experience is anything to go by that bass-heaviness will pass as the tubes break in... unless they are too bright in which case the opposite seems to happen!
     
  8. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Geez. If the Peach stays this quiet for the rest of the week, this battle will be all but over. Not to knock on the Freya at all. But Mark Deneen knew what he was doing when he voiced this pre. It is just so Damn musically sweet. Not syrupy sweet or sonically gooey. But just that hint of sweetness that keeps the music flowing well after you meant it to.

    I am starting to wonder if this is really a fair fight though. These pre amps were not in the same price points. I think over 1K separated them, at least when Juicy Music was still pumping these out. I wonder if a better quad of 6SN7s would level the playing field? I may have to see about getting a quad of something decent for the Freya. For now it would seem that the Juicy Music Peach II is all but the winner here.

    Still have the reflector tubes enroute. Maybe a set of New production Tung Sol 6SN7s at the very least is warranted for comparison purposes? A set of Sofia Electric 6SN7s would be over the top! I can always include them in any potential sale of the Pre should that be its fate. I really wanted Freya to be way better than the Peach. It has balanced in and outputs as well as a JFET and Passive stage. It is definitely dead silent and sounds great in its own right. But the Peach is better with actual music. The only question in my mind remaining is if the Peach will stay quiet?
     
  9. JohnVF

    JohnVF Administrator Staff Member

    Fingers crossed for the Peach. Maybe not surprising but I was rooting for it the whole time, just for how much joy my Juicy Music Tercel II has brought me over the years. It's back in service, too, in the bedroom setup with the Leben. Another musically correct creation. I've not heard the Peach but had always wanted one. It's just such a classy looking (and, I'm assuming, sounding) preamp.
     
  10. Try1256

    Try1256 Very Special Member

    I had a set of Phillips 7dj8's in my phono stage. They are very nice sounding tubes but I felt they were a little soft, lacking a little detail. Very quiet but soft. Just for grins and giggles, I pulled them out and put in a set of EH 6922's I had in the box. I didnt expect it to be an improvement but it was. Much better detail. The plan is to replace the EH's with Reflector 6H23p-EB's. They are supposedly similar but much better. Another tube I really like is the Tungsram 6922. Have a set in my preamp and they are dead quiet and sound wonderful.
     
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  11. fiddlefye

    fiddlefye Senior Member

    Nice to hear some reviews of some 6922s (and variants) as I need to choose some for my Anthem.
     
  12. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    A new level has been added to the competition!

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    The Zu Omen Dirty Weekends are here. Just in time to make my weekend oh so dirty!
     
  13. airdronian

    airdronian Junior Member

    Nice ! Is that the hickory veneer ?
     
  14. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Well. The Freya gave it all she had. But her ability to be quiet was just not enough to beat the overall musicality of the Juicy Music Peach II.
    So I am declaring the Peach the winner by TKO.
     
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  15. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Why it is. It is a very well finished speaker. Very classy looking.
     
  16. Try1256

    Try1256 Very Special Member

    How do you like the Zu's?
     
  17. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    They will be getting the full thread review treatment. Already started to take listening notes. In short though, they are really good speakers, especially for the price. They truly exceeded my expectations.
     
  18. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    Well. I am bringing this chapter to a close for the foreseeable future. The Peach has come full circle and remains here in service. What’s really interesting about the whole experience is that in my quest to replace the Peach, every other item in the system ended up being replaced instead. How is that for irony? She may not be my only love. But she is once, twice, three times a lady!
     
  19. In a way I’m glad for my awful commute every day. 2 hours in the car every day listening to music over my car stereo... via Bluetooth... it gets a lot more play than my system.

    I guess it keeps me a little grounded on what systems and music are. I enjoy music on this system while I’m sitting in traffic. When I get the time to spin some vinyl at home I’m always referencing what I heard in my car.

    I think all audiophiles should keep a cheap and not so good system that non audio people listen too. There is and never will be an end to the pursuit of sound quality. But at least I know how far I’ve come.

    Of course if I knew how to do car audio I’d immediately replace it!
     
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  20. S0und Dragon

    S0und Dragon Junior Member

    The Reflectors arrived. The Nationals are better. They probably need to break in some more. But I am really digging the National 7DJ8s. They are a true gem.
     
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