Schiit Saga

Discussion in 'The Doorway' started by TubeHiFiNut, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    Classic architecture.....

    I love buildings of that style.
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  2. Fran604g

    Fran604g Just Call Me Junior

    That's stunning, no Schiit!
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  3. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    yeah, sorry for the thread-hijack. :p

    back to the Schiit.


    PS I actually managed to resist posting an image of the infamous (but apt) Millie Jackson album cover.
  4. Olson_jr

    Olson_jr Active Member

    Damn, I had a friends Almarro A205a here for a while and I never thought of connecting my preamp to it.
  5. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    It works and sounds just fine without a preamp and I've used it like that to listen to my Stax SRX III electrostatic headphones.

    In the main system, it performs beautifully as a power amp. :)

    @Redboy suggested replacing the pot with a Slagleformer - a suggestion that I will act on someday. Can't hurt. ;)
  6. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    The Saga continues to please..... :)

    I must say that this is a very impressive line stage - especially for the price.

    The soundstage is bigger and deeper through the Quicksilvers.

    As previously mentioned, the leading edge is a bit more polite through the Saga.

    But I am, in effect, nitpicking a $374 line stage.

    I have one of the Shugang CV181 tubes on the way and @mhardy6647 has sent a vintage 6SN7 so I can compare. One or both of these tubes may lift the Saga even higher. has a remote. ;)

    In all seriousness, if you are shopping for a line stage and don't feel like spending $1,000 or more, you should audition a Saga. Schiit gives you a 15 day eval period so you can see how it sounds in your system.

    More impressions to follow. :)
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  7. Dang it, how did I miss a SIX PAGE thread on my own Schiit???

    Well, that's what I get for life being busy and all. I'm super jazzed about this thread, and that someone else has gotten the bug to try a Saga. What I will find super interesting is how the Shuguang and "oos" tubes will compare. When I got the unit from Woody, I tried the different configurations: passive, buffered (stock tube) and buffered (Shuguang). All three had their own character, and I wound up preferring the Shuguang'ed Schiit Saga over the others, by a fair margin. I'd love to hear an "oos" tube in it, just for another comparo. But the SSS sounds really good to my ears, although I have very little experience with preamps up the food chain. I will say, however, that I can find nothing to nitpick. It just sounds like beautiful music to my ears.

    Also, the volume "pot" cannot be replaced, as it is a thin-film resistor ladder on the main circuit board. The clicking sound is relays as they engage different resistors. The Saga has 64 steps, while the Freya has 128. I can't imagine anything improving on the clarity, as the signal goes through a couple resistors and that's it. Although different attenuation schemes may well sound different.
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  8. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    The more I listen to it, the more I like it. :)
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  9. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    Been listening to the Saga with the vintage JAN-Sylvania 6SN7W.

    The first thing that jumps out with the Sylvania is gorgeous, silky, delicate highs. The Russian Tung-Sol sounding a wee touch "coarse" by comparison.

    The Tung-Sol lows are a bit fuller and have a bit more "slam", but the two are close.

    Given how the tube is used in this circuit, I kind of expect the differences to be subtle.

    I keep coming back to the highs of the Sylvania, though.....Loreena McKennitt's voice is gorgeous.

    Still listening and evaluating but I am favorably impressed with the JAN-Sylvania so far.

    Many many thanks to @mhardy6647 for sending me the JAN-Sylvania. I really appreciate your kindness and generosity. :)
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  10. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    De nada. Thanks for the update.
    Glad you got to try it! :)
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  11. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    Probably time for an update.

    Still running the Sylvania that @mhardy6647 sent. Have not had the urge to change it out.

    One of my friends was over listening on Saturday. Still have the Belles hooked up but with the Community horns in place of the Klipsch mid-horn. The Almarro A205a is still hooked up.

    The Saga/Sylvania is transparent, sweet and has zero issues driving the long interconnects to the power amps. The sound in combination with the Almarro and Belles/Community is simply gorgeous. I really could live with this sound for a long time. Absolutely connects me to the emotions of the music.

    In my opinion, the Saga is a real bargain for $350 or so (depending on tube options).

    Still highly recommended. :)
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  12. Great update!
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  13. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    And now we have the Shugang CV181 plugged in and making music!

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    Didn't need the tube socket extender. The CV181 plugged in and made great contact. Looks like it might be touching the case on one side but I figured, as long as the tube is firmly seated in the socket, why introduce another connection when it's not necessary.

    Warmed everything up for at least an hour.

    The CV181 is very detailed. Acoustic guitar is rendered nicely. Female vocals are also good.

    Still making up my mind, though, and will report back after further listening. :)
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  14. That's my setup! Preamp-wise, at least. I sure have nothing to complain about with the Saga and CV181.
  15. Prime Minister

    Prime Minister Site Owner Staff Member

    Shouldn't those be paving stones? :)
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  16. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    That's my homage to Canada. ;)
  17. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    you are a very bad man, Mr. Prime Minister.

  18. Prime Minister

    Prime Minister Site Owner Staff Member

    For what do we live, but to make sport for our neighbors, and laugh at them in our turn?
  19. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    That's like a real 21st Century reboot of the Golden Rule ;)

    Works for me.
  20. Prime Minister

    Prime Minister Site Owner Staff Member

    Actually, that's the 19th Century pre-boot(?). Jane Austen.

    I have many Jane Austen quotes I really enjoy, but that might be my favourite.
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