So, I've been bitten by the LS3/5A-style bug. The promise of unrivaled vocal performance and world class "tone" has really got me interested. First I was considering the Falcon LS3/5A, but in the finish I wanted along with local sales tax would have come out to nearly $4k and that's just too damn much. For that kind of money, regardless of their performance, I could do "better". However, when falling back on option B, Harbeth P3ESR I saw that they have the new 40th Anniversary Edition and it's quite nice. I've heard the regular P3ESR a couple of times and always loved their sound. There's something addicting about the midrange and the tone of them.
Digging around it seems theres a few people around the internet that feel the ProAc Tablette 10 is comparable to the P3ESR, and possibly even "better" in certain aspects. I've never heard ProAc speakers so, while they cost significantly less than Harbeth, buying a pair is pretty dicey for me.
While asking someone on another forum who has vast experience with multiple versions of the LS3/5A and ProAc what their guidance would be, he suggested that Harbeth need a bit of room to breathe, so not suited well for desktop listening (which is the only listening I do(no stereo at the moment in the house)) and that the ProAc would be better suited to a near-wall / desktop environment. This same guy also suggested a speaker I've seen raved about recently, the Buchardt Audio S400. This company seems to be founded by some pretty bright folks and the reviews are generally very positive. It's within the theoretical price range that I've considered and on their site says they can be placed directly against the rear wall, though doesn't suggest if they're good or bad for desktop listening.
With the Buchardt's big waveguide giving some distance between woofer and tweeter and I've seen a couple people mention that they need at least 1m from listening position to really blend well, so this might not be the most optimal solution at the moment for me, but could possibly be the speaker I end up with for the long haul in another future stereo system. However, with life going the way it is, I don't actually foresee any sort of situation where I'd have an actual dedicated listening space like I used to have in the past. Limited to office desktop or possibly small bedroom system. Which is why I've focused all my time and energy on maximizing office/desktop performance.
Another thing I'm considering is possible resale value. Harbeth seems to be the Lexus/Toyota of audio in terms of resale. Easily recouping a high percentage of original retail cost if I do end up passing them on. ProAc, Buchardt and especially DIY probably don't carry this sort of luxury if I decide to bail. And of course there's the pride of ownership thing that I seem to feel towards owning a Harbeth product. It seem once you go Harbeth it's very difficult to not stay in the camp. The couple times I've heard the P3ESR I was just astounded at how natural things sounded. At that time I didn't know about their BBC-style history, thin walled cabinets or anything about true Hi-Fi, yet I was able to recognize that they did midrange better than anything I had heard at the time. During that time I was in vast exploration and heard some pretty mighty sounding (and priced) (and sized) stereos including stats, horns, etc. and always came back to the Harbeths for their ability to strangely capture the human hand clap realistically... weird, I know but one of the things that impressed me among the midrange realness and body of acoustic instruments.
So here I am, I'm not necessarily trying to replace the DIY speakers I just built, because they're pretty stinkin' fantastic so far, I just think that along with my curiosity in these types of speakers also comes the possibility to save a lot of space with some LS3/5A sized cabinets instead. And maybe gain a little more cohesion?
So what do you guys think? Has anyone been down this path already? Anyone with LS3/5A experience in the extreme nearfield/desktop situation? Are they worth the price of admission or would I be better suited looking elsewhere? Any input on these questions or possibly anything I've missed would be greatly appreciated.
Also... one speaker I keep thinking about as well is the Omega Audio Compact Alnico Monitor. Some that have heard these really do speak highly of them, even compared to full sized speakers. My fear with this is that, with it's sensitivity of 94db it might just tempt me to fall back into the tube audio world... and I'm not sure if I really want to go there again.
Cheers,
StevenZ
Digging around it seems theres a few people around the internet that feel the ProAc Tablette 10 is comparable to the P3ESR, and possibly even "better" in certain aspects. I've never heard ProAc speakers so, while they cost significantly less than Harbeth, buying a pair is pretty dicey for me.
While asking someone on another forum who has vast experience with multiple versions of the LS3/5A and ProAc what their guidance would be, he suggested that Harbeth need a bit of room to breathe, so not suited well for desktop listening (which is the only listening I do(no stereo at the moment in the house)) and that the ProAc would be better suited to a near-wall / desktop environment. This same guy also suggested a speaker I've seen raved about recently, the Buchardt Audio S400. This company seems to be founded by some pretty bright folks and the reviews are generally very positive. It's within the theoretical price range that I've considered and on their site says they can be placed directly against the rear wall, though doesn't suggest if they're good or bad for desktop listening.
With the Buchardt's big waveguide giving some distance between woofer and tweeter and I've seen a couple people mention that they need at least 1m from listening position to really blend well, so this might not be the most optimal solution at the moment for me, but could possibly be the speaker I end up with for the long haul in another future stereo system. However, with life going the way it is, I don't actually foresee any sort of situation where I'd have an actual dedicated listening space like I used to have in the past. Limited to office desktop or possibly small bedroom system. Which is why I've focused all my time and energy on maximizing office/desktop performance.
Another thing I'm considering is possible resale value. Harbeth seems to be the Lexus/Toyota of audio in terms of resale. Easily recouping a high percentage of original retail cost if I do end up passing them on. ProAc, Buchardt and especially DIY probably don't carry this sort of luxury if I decide to bail. And of course there's the pride of ownership thing that I seem to feel towards owning a Harbeth product. It seem once you go Harbeth it's very difficult to not stay in the camp. The couple times I've heard the P3ESR I was just astounded at how natural things sounded. At that time I didn't know about their BBC-style history, thin walled cabinets or anything about true Hi-Fi, yet I was able to recognize that they did midrange better than anything I had heard at the time. During that time I was in vast exploration and heard some pretty mighty sounding (and priced) (and sized) stereos including stats, horns, etc. and always came back to the Harbeths for their ability to strangely capture the human hand clap realistically... weird, I know but one of the things that impressed me among the midrange realness and body of acoustic instruments.
So here I am, I'm not necessarily trying to replace the DIY speakers I just built, because they're pretty stinkin' fantastic so far, I just think that along with my curiosity in these types of speakers also comes the possibility to save a lot of space with some LS3/5A sized cabinets instead. And maybe gain a little more cohesion?
So what do you guys think? Has anyone been down this path already? Anyone with LS3/5A experience in the extreme nearfield/desktop situation? Are they worth the price of admission or would I be better suited looking elsewhere? Any input on these questions or possibly anything I've missed would be greatly appreciated.
Also... one speaker I keep thinking about as well is the Omega Audio Compact Alnico Monitor. Some that have heard these really do speak highly of them, even compared to full sized speakers. My fear with this is that, with it's sensitivity of 94db it might just tempt me to fall back into the tube audio world... and I'm not sure if I really want to go there again.
Cheers,
StevenZ