Andrew Jones - MoFi SourcePoint 8 speakers (on sale)

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I just read some rave reviews on these MoFi SourcePoint 8 speakers. This is the second, smaller speaker Jones designed for MoFi. I'm a fan of Jones speaker designs.

I know, you should not buy speakers based on reviews - you should listen to them. BUT, easier said than done.

They are on sale from this vendor (never used them).

Any views from Haven members??


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Bonus if I bought these speakers - I have cool looking metal stands for my A25 that would fit these speakers. The stands offered by MoFi are really terrible looking.


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I bought a bunch of tubes from Upscale back when they had NOS tubes (something went down where they don't seem to want to deal with them anymore, but they were a reliable place).

I'm also intrigued by those MoFi speakers. You should buy them and tell us how they are :)
 
I bought a bunch of tubes from Upscale back when they had NOS tubes (something went down where they don't seem to want to deal with them anymore, but they were a reliable place).

I'm also intrigued by those MoFi speakers. You should buy them and tell us how they are :)

Smile. I'm seriously considering it. All the reviews raved about the midrange warmth and big dynamics. At my age with modest hearing loss - dynamics is important. (smile)

Several initial reviews on the first speaker - the 10, said the speakers were bright. But everyone seems to like the 8. The speaker size of the 8 would fit my loft space pretty well, they are about the same size as a vintage A25, a little less tall and little deeper, same width.

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Bonus if I bought these speakers - I have cool looking metal stands for my A25 that would fit these speakers. The stands offered by MoFi are really terrible looking.
I would think they should be higher up with the center of the driver at ear height. And yeah, those stands are not attractive.

MusicDirect has these for $1999 also. Show special, I think. They have a white open box pair for $1,599.

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I'm also intrigued by those MoFi speakers. You should buy them and tell us how they are :)
You can tentatively give a listen to them on Sunday (and maybe talk with Andrew Jones for a moment).
 
You can tentatively give a listen to them on Sunday (and maybe talk with Andrew Jones for a moment).
I'll probably swing into the room and listen for a few moments. Hard to draw an opinion when the music is pre-chosen though.
 
I bought a bunch of tubes from Upscale back when they had NOS tubes (something went down where they don't seem to want to deal with them anymore, but they were a reliable place).

I'm also intrigued by those MoFi speakers. You should buy them and tell us how they are :)

I too have bought plenty of NOS tubes from Upscale Audio and they certainly have a very good reputation in that regard, they sell the real McCoy low noise tested/matched tubes.

I think what happened was the pandemic, Kevin could no longer make his various tube hunting trips to Europe for a couple of years there. They do now have some NOS types back in stock, but far fewer than before. He also had to suspend all tube sales for a while when he got hit with a wave of hoarder buyers once the sanctions against Russia took place.

I think they took a bunch of panic orders before he was even able to react, and the damage was done, their fragile stocks that hadn't been replenished during the pandemic were largely sold through, and he faced the prospect of not getting any new Russian tubes either. Add in that the largest Shuguang factory in China was apparently dismantled and never rebuilt as originally promised, and the tube supply was very much in question for a while, with the only reliable production coming from JJ in Slovakia.

I've never heard those MoFi speakers but can't imagine they aren't at least good or very good given the pedigree, but no speaker is perfect and does all things for all people in all rooms and these won't be an exception to that, you simply need the right room (size/shape/build/materials) for the right speaker for everything to really click (and/or room correction/DSP).
 
I bought an amp, subwoofer and tubes from Upscale in the past. No problem ever. I agree with what was posted above-buy them and let us know what you think. The reviews look good, but I want to hear from a non-paid enthusiast about them.
 
I bought a combination of new and NOS tubes from NOS for my amps from Upscale--never an issue with them or the products. They charge a bit more than others, but the tubes were tested and (where needed) matched.
The reviews look good, but I want to hear from a non-paid enthusiast about them.
I thought Andrew Jones did quite well with the ELAC speakers, and he was with KEF and TAD prior to his stint at Pioneer, so he's got a good reputation behind him.

I'll have to make a point to check them out. At past shows, any room Jones is in, is usually packed. I'll try for a late afternoon visit when the crowds thin out.
 
I bought a combination of new and NOS tubes from NOS for my amps from Upscale--never an issue with them or the products. They charge a bit more than others, but the tubes were tested and (where needed) matched.

I thought Andrew Jones did quite well with the ELAC speakers, and he was with KEF and TAD prior to his stint at Pioneer, so he's got a good reputation behind him.

I'll have to make a point to check them out. At past shows, any room Jones is in, is usually packed. I'll try for a late afternoon visit when the crowds thin out.
I was considering an Axpona visit. Chicago is only a couple hours north, but not sure I can swing it with my schedule. Let us know.
 
For those in Chicago: Does Music Direct have a showroom for equipment demo or is it just an online warehouse?
 
For those in Chicago: Does Music Direct have a showroom for equipment demo or is it just an online warehouse?
The last time I was there, which was over a year ago, they still had a sort of warehouse-showroom. But I think you have to call ahead and make sure somebody will be there to show you around. They also had a record store...I hope that is still there as it was fun going through their b-stock of SACDs, etc.
 
Andrew Jones was at a DIY speaker event that I attended a few years ago (InDIYana 2018). He was approachable and personable, and seemed like a super nice guy to me. He gave a brief talk on speaker design, and was certainly very knowledgable. Overall, a very positive experience.
 
For those in Chicago: Does Music Direct have a showroom for equipment demo or is it just an online warehouse?
Like @JohnVF says, they do have a demo room, but when I stopped there in June 2022, visits for the demos are by appointment only. (Prior to COVID, I think they had "walk-in" hours.) I think it's due to them running a mail order business, not a showroom, so they probably have nobody who demos equipment full time.

I'm not sure about the records, though. I do have a buddy who regularly visits there. And they will be all over AXPONA so I could ask.

Andrew Jones was at a DIY speaker event that I attended a few years ago (InDIYana 2018). He was approachable and personable, and seemed like a super nice guy to me. He gave a brief talk on speaker design, and was certainly very knowledgable. Overall, a very positive experience.
During an ELAC demo, a younger attendee (probably early to mid 20s) mentioned something about wanting to study speaker design, and Jones asked him to step out into the hallway. When I walked past about ten minutes later, they were still talking. 👍 Very nice fellow, and an entertaining presenter.
 
Andrew Jones was at a DIY speaker event that I attended a few years ago (InDIYana 2018). He was approachable and personable, and seemed like a super nice guy to me. He gave a brief talk on speaker design, and was certainly very knowledgable. Overall, a very positive experience.

That's great to hear. I've seen some interviews with him and was impressed with how articulate he is - in particular about the tradeoffs in speaker design. For example when designing Elac budget speakers, he said you allocate more of your limited budget to good drivers and sometimes accept inferior cabinet materials to get the best sounding speaker at a low price point.
 
For example when designing Elac budget speakers, he said you allocate more of your limited budget to good drivers and sometimes accept inferior cabinet materials to get the best sounding speaker at a low price point.
I wish I could remember his "formula." It was something like, you could have high efficiency, something, something else...pick two of the three.
 
Andrew Jones participates regularly on a FB group about audio gear, he's always got a great demeanor and it's fun to watch random armchair speaker builders try to challenge him or Ken Kantor in the knowledge department.

As to the pick two - Hoffman's Iron Law.
 
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