Another pair of Pioneer/TAD to modify

Nice work on these Tim! Are you happy with their sound and how do they compare to the Labos?
They are different. The Be mids are far superior to the originals, so that’s been an improvement over the pair I have in storage.
Bass is nuts with these. Some of the best in a passive system.
Compared to the Victor speakers...well with the original mids, the 1000 would easily win, except the bass region (only for bass qty tho.) with the Be mids, it’s a lot closer. No details are lost on either. Sheer dynamics will go to the TAD, but the Victor is still a higher end speaker. It was about ¥1m costlier.
 
The right hand stuff and bench will relocate, the bench out altogether and then a rack of hopefully five shelves or more will move in. The 22” wide variety instead of the 60” bench. The remaining stock can sit on its end or side near it, but toward the door. Will be great. :)
Oh these speakers are also just a lot too much fun! The Sony’s to the left will get hooked up to a second working system in there. This is nothing but a fun room, it’s quite damped. And it sounds shockingly good back there despite everything. I’ve treated the weird corner with a folding bed, and packing material up Hugh to avoid odd diffractions. The boxes to the left are full of Revel speakers with sound deadening packing. Inert. The carpet is boring but is a thick Berber on nice padding. Inert. The closet is full of clothes. And the door has a few clothes items and a shoe pocket hanging on it for deadening effect.
 
Bench is out and up front where it’ll be used. Back room is stuff on it’s side or end til two racks come. I’ll be able to shelve 15 things between the three (one there already and in use.)
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Still getting used to these, I haven’t had a large Be dome mid based speaker before. It’s quite revealing and detailed. Fast would explain it best. This is probably how they should have been built, but for cost concerns, nope. The bass and trebles now seem to be in better agreement with the whole presentation too. Speaking of bass, absolutely nuts when called for. Still (probably) the most capable speaker of its size class.
 
So there was a noise. It’s a noise I’m pretty sure I’d noticed before, something felt like it could occasionally be a little distorted. Not obviously, but a little hashy. But I hadn’t used any music to really aggravate the middle range like say uncompressed treble or female soprano or mezzo can do. Now you know I wanted to ignore that noise, as I had been doing so well all along. No, I did not get sold a defective driver which I modded to work in this cabinet.

I got a new disc yesterday and there it was. Breakup in the right hand Be midrange. Like a little shatter or odd doubling. Hmmmm. Over to the speaker and off with the grille and the magnetic screen of the mid (genius). Put on nitrile gloves (Be is poisonous) and I can make it stop pressing lightly on the left side of the surround. Hmmm. Email to Bill Legall after the grilles are back in place.

Response: We don’t have the kits anymore, but sometimes you can find them in China, you can exchange the parts. Oh so the well enough versed user can take these apart. Swell. So out of the cabinet comes the driver, and out come the six screws which hold the protector and dome and coil and the mount plate in place. The protector comes all the way off and it can be set aside. The whole assembly comes away from the magnet, and was set aside on top of a bowl (to avoid any pressure on the coil). Next, I fold a bunch of cardboard and see if the gap is dirty. Dang it sure was. Fashioned a bunch of those folded cardboard cleaners, got the 91% alcohol and sprayed the wedges and cleaned all of the stuff out. Took my trusty neo ring magnet and placed it near the first cleanings in case any was metal. Once the wedges came clean, I lightly brushed the actual coil with a dry natural makeup brush to get rid of any loose stuff.

Back together and it’s as good as it was new. No more noise at all and a purer sound. The other one will be done tomorrow to match. It’s not making noise, but I’ll bet the gap is dirty. Note: these are dry gaps.
 
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So there was a noise. It’s a noise I’m pretty sure I’d noticed before, something felt like it could occasionally be a little distorted. Not obviously, but a little hashy. But I hadn’t used any music to really aggravate the middle range like say uncompressed treble or female soprano or mezzo can do.

I got a new disc yesterday and there it was. Breakup in the right hand Be midrange. Like a little shatter or odd doubling. Hmmmm. Over to the speaker a d off with the grille and the magnetic screen of the mid (genius). Put on nitrile gloves (Be is poisonous) and I can make it stop pressing lightly on the left side of the surround. Hmmm. Email to Bill Legall after the grilles are back in place.

Response: We don’t have the kits anymore, but sometimes you can find them in China, you can exchange the parts. Oh so the well enough versed user can take these apart. Swell. So out of the cabinet comes the driver, and out come the six screws which hold the protector and dome and coil and the mount plate in place. The protector comes all the way off and it can be set aside. The whole assembly comes away from the magnet, and was set aside on top of a bowl (to avoid any pressure on the coil). Next fold a bunch of cardboard and see if the gap is dirty. Dang it sure was. Fashioned a bunch of those folded cardboard cleaners,got the 91% alcohol and sprayed the wedges and cleaned all of the stuff out. Took my trusty neo ring magnet and place do it near the first cleanings in case any was metal. Once the wedges came clean, I lightly brushed the actual coil with a dry natural makeup brush to get rid of any loose stuff.

Back together and it’s as good as it was new. No more noise at all and a purer sound. The other one will be done tomorrow to match. It’s not making noise, but I’ll bet the gap is dirty. Note: these are dry gaps.
Good job. You have crazy skills. And I was happy with my arm replacement ! :)
 
Not so quick said the mid. Still noise and out again. Shavings. Still. So I made a plastic tool and brought them up a couple at a time where I could pinch them and toss em away. Then another clean with the folded cardboard and alcohol. Fine alignment with signal and good this time. Added lock washers to the main mounts inside the cab too. All good and worth it.
 
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