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My wife and I are looking at relocating to the Atlanta area. We know no one there, but she plays tennis so she'll meet people that way. I was wondering how many Atlanta area audiophiles we have on this board.

Ian
currently S. Florida
 
Maybe I'll actually find a house that works and we can meet up. We looked at a house (video tour) in Canton today that would have had many music rooms but was 18 years old and not very well taken care of. Back to square 1. :)
 
Just keep looking, there's plenty of inventory. It took us 3 months to find and close. We settled on an older house (worse house in an okay neighborhood) and got a decent contractor for renovations.
 
There really isn't much inventory for what we're looking for. We'd prefer a house big enough for all my hobbies, lol. I'm looking for pretty turnkey, other than carpets, paint and light fixtures. Needs to have a dedicated home theatre. I've been looking in ATL and Kentucky for 2 years now. I'm 61 so this my last home. We will keep looking.

Where did you buy? We're open to most of Atlanta metro because I work for myself from home.
 
Long time Atlanta area resident. Found my nirvana in Athens.

I'm also in the Real Estate business (Commercial... not Residential), so, know the area well.

I would say it pretty much has whatever your looking for except cool nights in the summer.
 
I work from home so I can live anywhere. I like Florida, but property insurance premiums are rapidly approaching $1000 per $100k insured. At my age, I like cost certainty (or as close as you can get). FL property insurance costs are going up 25-40% annually. So we scoped out a couple of places, Kentucky which is colder than we'd like but I'm in the racing business so it's an easy fit. Atlanta which isn't Florida weather-wise, but is warmer than KY. My wife and I are originally from NY but have lived in FL for 23 years. What complicates it a little is we have almost no family other than our 25 year old son who works in finance and lives with us. We want to move to a place where there are job opportunities and where he will be able to afford his own place soon. A 1,200 sq foot condo is S. Florida is $400k, that's 6.5x his salary. I'd be helping carry his mortgage forever. It's gotten so crazy in Atlanta though. We're looking at a place on Saturday, built in 1997. The seller who is 82 years old wants 35% more than the comp across the street that sold last summer. His broker told my rep "he knows there is no inventory he plans on taking every penny he can from a sale." I KNOW we will overpay, the question is how much. I've worked on mortgage backed trading desks so I have a good feel for valuations, but in this market it doesn't matter. I will just keep plugging away. I need to find space for all my gear, LOL.
 
I have been reading along, and I think the prices you quote are dirt cheap. The cheapest nastiest junk house in Australian cities will START at $600,000. The house I was born in was pre fab in Denmark. Its weatherboard. NICE baltic pine, but weatherboard. Origionally had asbestos roof. 3 very small bedrooms, tiny bathroom, loungeroom good for maybe five watts per channel. Kitchen was horrible.
Sounds good huh ?, the houses are exactly the same the whole suburb over, origionally set up as married quarters for a work camp for construction of the snowy mountains scheme.

Want a price for totally unimproved for a house like that? $500,000. Sorry heres the quote :Price Range - $420,000 - $440,000

Now doesnt that look like a superb bathroom?.

I think you are spoiled Ian.

Best of luck in your search.

Joe
 
I think you are spoiled Ian.

Best of luck in your search.

Joe

Disenchanted with prices? Maybe? Spoiled, no.

I grew up in a family where my father couldn't afford to keep the lights/heat turned on 12 months a year most years. I borrowed money to put myself through college and graduate school. I bought a house for my mother to live in for the last 20 years of her life because my parents house was ultimately condemned by the city due to neglect.

Spoiled is the last thing I am. My son, that's another story.
 
Thanks Ian, no disrespect was meant.
Im 70 years old and still pay rent. I worked as an electrical engineer all my life and am still broke :roflmao:.
Well, in winter we had heating, because I chopped wood every winter. In summer it gets over 120F some days.
The house was totally uninsulated. That link I sent is from my hometown. Its 280 miles from Sydney and in winter it used to get down to 12 F.
The worst thing is the wind!! It will kill you if you dont know about it. Chill factor can get to minus 70F.

Anyway, I wish you well in your search.

Good luck.

Joe
 
Hopefully you find what you’re looking for, but curious as to why Atlanta?


More a process of elimination or as my linear programming professor used to say "Life is a series of constrained optimizations."

The solution: Find a place to live where we can spend the rest of our lives. (we're in a crappy overpriced rental now, long story)

optimize subject to

1) We can no longer deal with very cold winters.
2) My son needs to be able to find a good job.
3) My son will eventually earn enough $ from said job to buy home (virtually impossible for any millennials in S. Florida)
4) Area in which we live must be populated with a decent percentage of well-educated, open-minded people . We're not woke, actually Republicans but centrists not right-wing crazies.
5) I'm Jewish, wife is Protestant. Not being the only Jew in a community would be a plus.
6) My wife is a very good club tennis player. We need to be in an area that has tennis facilities.
7) Reasonable housing prices per sq ft. I'd like a house with a room for video and a room for 2 channel.
8) Preferably east coast vs west coast. We've never lived further west than Ohio. My wife's elderly parents live in NY.
9) No more hurricanes. Tornadoes terrify me.

Doesn't leave as many places as you would think. Georgia (Other than Atlanta I think it will be hard for my son to find a job), Kentucky (Louisville and Lexington) I am in the horse racing business, Nashville, TN (fantastic, diverse city but RE prices have pretty much doubled since Covid), North Carolina maybe (I went to grad school there but the winters aren't that warm). So you start eliminating...Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana (hurricanes, extreme cultural differences as we're both from NYC suburbs), South Carolina (I've been there, it's really not a good fit), Arkansas (not great infrastructure, either very rural or very high crime rates). Once you get north of Kentucky you have very tough winters. Vegas was a possibility because my business is gambling but my wife didn't like it there and my close friend who lives there says lack of water is a problem. I would say 2& 3 are key, followed by 1. Other than my wife, my son is my whole life and I want to find a place where he will be happy & successful.

I'm sorry, long-winded answer but we spent a lot of time on this over the past 24 months. I WISH we had more options.
 
Thanks Ian, no disrespect was meant.
Im 70 years old and still pay rent. I worked as an electrical engineer all my life and am still broke :roflmao:.
Well, in winter we had heating, because I chopped wood every winter. In summer it gets over 120F some days.
The house was totally uninsulated. That link I sent is from my hometown. Its 280 miles from Sydney and in winter it used to get down to 12 F.
The worst thing is the wind!! It will kill you if you dont know about it. Chill factor can get to minus 70F.

Anyway, I wish you well in your search.

Good luck.

Joe


Thanks for explaining that Joe. I am a little sensitive about it because many people assume (not saying you) because I have had a successful career I must have been born into money. Couldn't be further from the truth. I have worked hard, have had people give me opportunities and I have been very lucky. My Dad was an army vet (fought in Korea, got shot twice) who came back with PTSD (they just called it the "jitters" back then) and who had trouble holding down a job after he returned. He got a $35 a month pension from the government for his service.
 
All good Ian,
NOT long winded at all, in fact its good to know more about you. Its obvious that we both have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Thats why I try be as friendly and "chatty " ( horrible expression ) as possible. One can build a minds eye picture of who the other guy is.
I have four kids, ( three grandkids ) and thankfully they are all go-getters and have set themselves up mostly around Brisbane. My dau just bought a house with her partner, walk in price $800,000. Now they are putting up retaining walls and concrete driveways and added 20,000 watts of solar panels. Still need insulate the house, so when all said and done probably 1.2 mil.
( Its also 100 kliks, 60 miles from Brisbane ) My eldest has three houses worth of debt and owes the bank over 2 mill.
So Brisbane is three days drive from here!!. Its 100 kph here on highways, thats 60 MPH to you. 20 kliks over the limit and its NOT a ticket, its straight into the cooler till your court case comes up. Read: several thousands worth of fines, and probably 3 years without a licence.

I hate the cold, and when I finished uni I moved north, like 5000 kliks north. I hope to win the lottery ( WHO doesnt ?? ) to be able to buy a house. Although saying that I would have somebody build me one to my design. That would be a nice cosy auditorium, with a kitchen nailed on. I am the cook, so thats fine. BUT kitchen would be BIG. Here, a nice place to have guests is in the kitchen. Plenty of food n grog then into the auditorium so I can blast my guests with 7 watts worth of my music :-).

I like your story!!.

Joe
 
All good Ian,
NOT long winded at all, in fact its good to know more about you. Its obvious that we both have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Thats why I try be as friendly and "chatty " ( horrible expression ) as possible. One can build a minds eye picture of who the other guy is.
I have four kids, ( three grandkids ) and thankfully they are all go-getters and have set themselves up mostly around Brisbane. My dau just bought a house with her partner, walk in price $800,000. Now they are putting up retaining walls and concrete driveways and added 20,000 watts of solar panels. Still need insulate the house, so when all said and done probably 1.2 mil.
( Its also 100 kliks, 60 miles from Brisbane ) My eldest has three houses worth of debt and owes the bank over 2 mill.
So Brisbane is three days drive from here!!. Its 100 kph here on highways, thats 60 MPH to you. 20 kliks over the limit and its NOT a ticket, its straight into the cooler till your court case comes up. Read: several thousands worth of fines, and probably 3 years without a licence.

I hate the cold, and when I finished uni I moved north, like 5000 kliks north. I hope to win the lottery ( WHO doesnt ?? ) to be able to buy a house. Although saying that I would have somebody build me one to my design. That would be a nice cosy auditorium, with a kitchen nailed on. I am the cook, so thats fine. BUT kitchen would be BIG. Here, a nice place to have guests is in the kitchen. Plenty of food n grog then into the auditorium so I can blast my guests with 7 watts worth of my music :-).

I like your story!!.

Joe


I wish my son was a go-getter. Maybe someday he will be. I spoiled him because I went without growing up. You reap what you sow. Amazing kid, but he's not as tenacious as you have to be to succeed these days. I worry about that every day. My wife always tells me we gave him every advantage and now the rest is up to him.

As an aside, that's why audio is so important to me. I enjoyed when I could only a cheap receiver and I enjoy the gear I have now just as much. We're not here very long, thank God we have music to listen to every day.
 
More a process of elimination or as my linear programming professor used to say "Life is a series of constrained optimizations."

The solution: Find a place to live where we can spend the rest of our lives. (we're in a crappy overpriced rental now, long story)

optimize subject to

1) We can no longer deal with very cold winters.
2) My son needs to be able to find a good job.
3) My son will eventually earn enough $ from said job to buy home (virtually impossible for any millennials in S. Florida)
4) Area in which we live must be populated with a decent percentage of well-educated, open-minded people . We're not woke, actually Republicans but centrists not right-wing crazies.
5) I'm Jewish, wife is Protestant. Not being the only Jew in a community would be a plus.
6) My wife is a very good club tennis player. We need to be in an area that has tennis facilities.
7) Reasonable housing prices per sq ft. I'd like a house with a room for video and a room for 2 channel.
8) Preferably east coast vs west coast. We've never lived further west than Ohio. My wife's elderly parents live in NY.
9) No more hurricanes. Tornadoes terrify me.

Doesn't leave as many places as you would think. Georgia (Other than Atlanta I think it will be hard for my son to find a job), Kentucky (Louisville and Lexington) I am in the horse racing business, Nashville, TN (fantastic, diverse city but RE prices have pretty much doubled since Covid), North Carolina maybe (I went to grad school there but the winters aren't that warm). So you start eliminating...Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana (hurricanes, extreme cultural differences as we're both from NYC suburbs), South Carolina (I've been there, it's really not a good fit), Arkansas (not great infrastructure, either very rural or very high crime rates). Once you get north of Kentucky you have very tough winters. Vegas was a possibility because my business is gambling but my wife didn't like it there and my close friend who lives there says lack of water is a problem. I would say 2& 3 are key, followed by 1. Other than my wife, my son is my whole life and I want to find a place where he will be happy & successful.

I'm sorry, long-winded answer but we spent a lot of time on this over the past 24 months. I WISH we had more options.
There are some very good reasons there. Family being most important (and of course being able to support them).
I’d say AZ was out till you mentioned Vegas. There is a great deal of employment, opportunity, reasonable cost of living (depending on where you live, of course), excellent tennis facilities, and some of the best weather in the world! (Except our summers; but you get used to it). :)
 
My wife and I reside in a northern suburb of Atlanta. Would be more than pleased to meet up with you when the time works for you. Best wishes on your search.
 
There are some very good reasons there. Family being most important (and of course being able to support them).
I’d say AZ was out till you mentioned Vegas. There is a great deal of employment, opportunity, reasonable cost of living (depending on where you live, of course), excellent tennis facilities, and some of the best weather in the world! (Except our summers; but you get used to it). :)

We looked at AZ briefly. Crazy prices there as well ($350-$400 a foot). Wife really doesn't want to be that far from her parents. I get that. We'll have to stick to east coast for now.
 
Hey Ian... Let me throw out a couple of other options in the South East.

East Tennessee is glorious. You couldn't go wrong with either Chattanooga or Knoxville.

I am also big fan of Greenville, SC. It's sister city is Spartanburg which is probably a little cheaper, quieter and not as hip but Greenville is right next door.

All of these are waaay cheaper than Atlanta but big enough to get just about anything you want. And all three of these economies are very robust.

Also... you should also check out Decatur, Alabama which is down the street from Hunstville, the new home of the Space Force, and one of the highest educated populations per capita in the nation. Cool place! Get you a little place on the Tennessee River and live happily ever after.
 
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Hey Ian... Let me throw out a couple of other options in the South East.

East Tennessee is glorious. You couldn't go wrong with either Chattanooga or Knoxville.

I am also big fan of Greenville, SC. It's sister city is Spartanburg which is probably a little cheaper, quieter and not as hip but Greenville is right next door.

All of these are waaay cheaper than Atlanta but big enough to get just about anything you want. And all three of these economies are very robust.

Also... you should also check out Decatur, Alabama which is down the street from Hunstville, the new home of the Space Force, and one of the highest educated populations per capita in the nation. Cool place! Get you a little place on the Tennessee River and live happily ever after.

I've been to Greenville. Many years ago for an interview when I was in grad school. I didn't get the job, but I don't think it would have been a good fit. We've looked at houses in Huntsville, didn't think the home value was there anymore. So much of this is what you know, what your used to. I was born in NYC and lived in NY for the first 35 years of my life (except 2 years grad school in NC). My wife lived her entire like on Long Island until we moved to Cleveland in 1996. I am a quintessential NYer in a lot of ways, good and bad. I worked my formative years on a trading desk and now consult for a hedge fund/betting syndicate so I'm pretty Type A. It's why I love this hobby. When I'm working on DIY or playing with gear I've got nothing else on my mind. It's so immersive for me. My wife is much more laid back but she likes a certain pace to things as well. We flirted with Chattanooga after seeing the Songbirds guitar musuem documentary. If people haven't seen, that it is an amazing movie.

I've come to the conclusion that we will have to pay 10-15% more for a property than it's worth in my estimation. Having worked on a mortgage trading desk I have a pretty good feel for how to value residential real estate. Unfortunately these days houses trade like meme stocks rather than based on their intrinsic worth so I am just going to have to not focus on over-paying and think about how cool it will be to set-up new listening rooms. Hopefully with new audio friends I meet wherever we end up. :)


p.s. Tennessee is bad for me from a tax standpoint because my incomne comes from a sub-S and Tennessee doesn't recognize those. I still like Nashville though because of all the live music.
 
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