Which model are you interested in? I worked with Pat over the summer on a "Mid priced" model. The Black Bird 2s were a lot of fun. Then he and I came up with a "Kingfisgher" add on woofer for them and man was that a great combination. I was the one who hit the 24/192 brick wall and had to reverse course. I am still very interested in adding the Ibis to the showroom.