Carts - Installation, Listening, Likes and Dislikes (No Brussels Sprouts)

MikeT.

My Name is Flounder
Site Supporter
Thanks to members here for lots of good advice on my cartridge purchase decision, so here’s a bit more on my new Dynavector 10x5 MKII (Shibata)
Set up difficulty for Shibata is high but a Fozgometer and Feickert protractor made setting up this cartridge much easier. Particularly the Fozgometer as regards to azimuth set up, which I understand is VERY important with a Shibata stylus. There are some options out there that do what the Feickert does fairly well. I made a first pass at trying to get the azimuth right by leveling the tonearm and eyeballing the headshell for parallel positioning as compared to the platter and record surface. Sounded OK, very OK in fact.

Then I connected the Foz, it’s pretty simple but the directions can be confusing. Now when making the adjustments, there’s nothing to hear. Just test tones fed directly into the Foz. Whoa, balance between left and right was off significantly. Turntable is level, tonearm is right but the Foz helps get the Shibata settled deep into those grooves. I have a Micro Seiki BL-51 with a new Jelco 550S arm with the HS-25 headshell which allowed for azimuth adjustability fairly easily. A couple of twists left and one back to the right and I achieved a balance of a quarter to a third of a tic on the Foz scale. Even the directions say, when you have it as close as possible you got it. Well, not in those exact words.

Here comes the good part, channel balance is now AMAZING! And now the really amazing part, one of the reference albums I’ve been using. just jumped out at me with a soundstage, left and right, up and down, front to back that certainly hadn’t been present before AND with midrange and high end detail that just wasn’t present before. I’m hearing things on my reference albums the Shibata is digging out, small and elegant details. But not JUST the small stuff, the mids and high end overall has gained volume and is more balanced. Gobs of good bass.

Depth on Arnie Domnerus Septet, A.D. 1980

“If You Could See Me Now”
Amazing depth and instrument placing, not just left or right but front to back, a good two or three feet more than the elliptical and UP and DOWN in the same plane, the drummer coming up from the snake to a tom a bit up and to the left(his right). It startled me.
Many layers of flute timbre I hadn’t noticed before. It think Dynavector owners have remarked about layering and it’s hard to put into words.

Paul Simon, Hearts and Bones
A small reverb on a whistle is audible.
Increased shading of the guitar strums
Fade out on “Baby I Think Too Much” lingers at a lower volume than I recall.

Song About the Heart” Paul Simon’s vocal very small warble on “heart” now noticeable.

I can only hope it gets even better as it breaks in. But damn, I think I made a good decision. :boogie

Now I’m just bragging.:smoke
Maybe some more later if I can pull myself away from playing rekkids. I haven’t turned on my digital rig in days.
 
Man, now you're going to make me get my fozgometer out.

Nice writeup on what it does, and its quite useful if not the most fun thing to use. It also shows how off a cart can be even though it looks, or even is, perfectly level visually.

It DOES make a difference, I just can't easily adjust azimuth on my current deck. I bought mine after sitting through a demonstration of the Feickert Adjust+ software, and hearing just how big the soundstage could get after perfectly nailing channel balance.
 
Yep, the channel balance difference was huge AND the resulting soundstage! While looking at another site, the analogdepartment.com, I saw the pic below. I suppose the “balance bar” method of azimuth adjustment is an option, I wouldn’t recommend it.
@JohnVF , is there any third party headshell that is azimuth adjustable?

790E8622-15E0-4DF7-AA92-100967D90988.jpeg
 
I'd love to have the opportunity to try a set up with all of the "toys" before long. So far I've had to use a whole lot of patience and the fozometers on either side of my head. Getting it right really does make a huge difference.
Yes, there are some... but I really like the headshells I'm using (An AT magnesium headshell). It all sounds great, but you know how OCDness can intrude on things....
The thing with shells is that the ones with azimuth adjustment are generally a lot heavier and for some cart/arm combos that just is not going to work at all. Some arms (SME) have the collar designed to allow for some movement and some arms without shell do as well.
 
I'd love to have the opportunity to try a set up with all of the "toys" before long. So far I've had to use a whole lot of patience and the fozometers on either side of my head. Getting it right really does make a huge difference.

The thing with shells is that the ones with azimuth adjustment are generally a lot heavier and for some cart/arm combos that just is not going to work at all. Some arms (SME) have the collar designed to allow for some movement and some arms without shell do as well.
I can bring my Fozgometer to you sometime. It's a nifty little device. Just need a test record with channel tests, if I recall.
 
One of the test records is Analog Productions Ultimate Test LP, the one I purchased for this.
9E299EFC-B4F9-4D4E-A761-2372E184F3A5.jpeg
 
@JohnVF , this can only help with your Audio OCD. Both magnesium but certainly a bit of design differences.

View attachment 10980View attachment 10981
I have an earlier one of the one on the left (also slightly lighter, I believe). It doesn't have azimuth adjustment. The biggest issue is...I have it in my possession, bought with 3 identical ones to get a rare Tokyo Sound headshell in a lot. But the headshell in the hand is worth 2 on the ebay :)

But I -may- look into one of the newer ones. It's a fabulous headshell, really tightened up the Nagaoka.
 
It’s quite amazing what a headshell can do for the sound. When I was experimenting with my Thorens, an aftermarket Schopper headshell was a major upgrade to the standard TP-11 arm. What we learn from just listening, eh?
 
I'd love to have the opportunity to try a set up with all of the "toys" before long. So far I've had to use a whole lot of patience and the fozometers on either side of my head. Getting it right really does make a huge difference.

The Fozgometer takes the P out of patience, in fact removes the need for patience. It’s that easy, except for the frustrating manual. Okay, you need a little patience.
 
I have one, or two. The problem is, its "I have one or two.....somewhere."
I have a lot of things "somewhere", many of them in that proverbial "safe place". Today it was the sheet music for the Prokofiev Sonata for Two Violins. Rather cool piece I was hoping to do with a couple of my advanced students.
 
Back
Top