Dirac? Is it time to make the jump to a Mini DSP SHD?

S0und Dragon

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The device of my Dreams would be something akin to the DSPeaker Antimode X4 without all the extras. A digital room correction device that goes in the chain in either a monitor loop or even between the Pre and Amp(s). Can be bypassed if desired, and can do room sweeps and base configurations from the device without requiring a dedicated laptop. Like the Men220 from Mac which I think works like this? but updated to handle the formats of today? That would be super.
 

prime minister

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I guess one advantage I have over you Guys is that I've been living with DSP inside my speakers for two years now, or near enough to, and I just can't hear that it's there. It captures subtleties in the analog domain so well, that stylus changes on my cartridge, for instance, were easy to hear. Worst case scenario, I figure, is that even if the DSP is doing something negative to the sound within my speakers, it's drastically less then what is done by passive crossover components.
 

prime minister

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The only concern I have with this whole deal is, what if I prefer the sound of digital through my current DAC, let's say, over the sound of the pure signal, all done in the digital domain, before the Final analog conversion in the speakers. I can guess which one is objectively better or worse, but which do I prefer subjectively?
 
" why would you not want to grab the datastream and rearrange it to your tastes and situation?"
Good question. If the purpose of buying equipment is to enjoy music at the very best fidelity that you can afford, then we should be open to any idea with sound engineering behind it.

What is DADA?
Digital to Analog to Digital to Analog.

Three conversions, not so hot.
 

I guess one advantage I have over you Guys is that I've been living with DSP inside my speakers for two years now, or near enough to, and I just can't hear that it's there. It captures subtleties in the analog domain so well, that stylus changes on my cartridge, for instance, were easy to hear. Worst case scenario, I figure, is that even if the DSP is doing something negative to the sound within my speakers, it's drastically less then what is done by passive crossover components.

Been living with DSP in my speakers for just a couple of months, and all I hear is fantastic sound. And dynamics and bass that you would never expect out of such little boxes.
 
Ahh... thanks. That’s precisely why I’m looking at a CD transport method to go to my active speakers. I don’t like the idea of a CD player doing a DA conversion only to send it to the analog input of my speakers to have it do an Immediate AD conversion to feed it to the DSP. I have no evidence that would be a problem sonically, but why not do it the cleanest way? Direct digital signal to the speaker digital input.
Yeah, you just need a way to adjust vol, if your speakers can't do it. The minidsp lets you use the knob, an IR remote or the app. The app runs on any browser, so your phone can be the vol control.

I'm using an SHD Studio as a Roon end point, controlling vol in Roon.
 
Yeah, you just need a way to adjust vol, if your speakers can't do it. The minidsp lets you use the knob, an IR remote or the app. The app runs on any browser, so your phone can be the vol control.

I'm using an SHD Studio as a Roon end point, controlling vol in Roon.

Yep. My speakers have a volume control knob and the app on my iPhone allows on screen control or I can use the up/down volume buttons on the side of the phone. Set up as they are on my Covid work-from-home-office-desk, I usually use the knob on the speaker.

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RichPA

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I agree with Pat's comments above about Dirac. I used the DSpeaker Antimode 2.0 for several years and like what it did, but moving to the MiniDSP was a major step forward for my setup. I use a DDRC-22D, which is digital-to-digital (mine is between a Bluesound Vault 2i and a Benchmark DAC3). If you like your current DAC, why not just go digital all the way? I admit I've never heard the D/A or A/D conversion in a MiniDSP, but my instinct (or bias) is to be suspicious of it.
 
Just purchased a MiniDSP 4 x 10 HD, but mostly to help with dialing in crossovers in builds. I'm sure I will dink around with it for the DSP room stuff. But it also gets me wondering if I should be considering using the Hypex plates in a build or two like Pat has moved to.
 
Just purchased a MiniDSP 4 x 10 HD, but mostly to help with dialing in crossovers in builds. I'm sure I will dink around with it for the DSP room stuff. But it also gets me wondering if I should be considering using the Hypex plates in a build or two like Pat has moved to.
The 4 x 10 is a powerful tool. It's pretty darn easy to skip the passives and just run multiple amp modules downstream from it. Last time out, we did this, 5x400W Hypex UcD modules with three smps. Kinda go the place rockin' ;)


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