Dream table #2 takes shape (its a rectangle).

JohnVF

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If my not-really-an-AR-but-really-a Gem-Dandy/Merrill-inside AR ES-1 is my dream table #1, my dream table #2 has been my Sony TTS-8000 motor unit. It used to be installed in my big mid-century-modern converted hi-fi console, but with that in storage and possibly getting sold at some point, the TTS-8000 was left homeless. Back around the time it had an electronic hiccup (thank you JP for sorting that, you're the best) I pulled it out and put an Ebay reminder for plinths for it. Nothing really came up except full tables, plinth and motor, and I didn't want another so I just waited. Finally about two weeks ago this lovely plinth popped up in Japan. One-click-purchase later, and it was on its way. Scarily fast, I might ad. I think it took 3 days to get here. In fact, I got the notification that it'd shipped 4 days after it showed up. Which reminds me, I love dealing with sellers in Japan. Never any drama. They even wrote to make sure I knew it was just a plinth and not a whole table.

So now I have to figure out what arm to put on it. I might use my Jelco TK-850s, off of dream table #1, since I don't have room for both... or I might try to track down something else. Technics EPA-100? Micro Seiki? Sony?

The plinth is by Resinamic Sound, who, from what I can gather, made plinths for several tables by Sony, Denon, Technics and possibly others. As you can tell by the name its some sort of resin. Heavy but not obnoxiously so, with a thick metal armboard insert. Speaking of which, that could be an issue... appears almost impossible to drill with my own tools and I have no idea what will drop in.

Onward!

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S0und Dragon

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Is the arm board removable? Maybe have a fancy wooden one made? Add some contrast with Zebrawood or Santos Rosewood? Options are endless!
 

JohnVF

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Is the arm board removable? Maybe have a fancy wooden one made? Add some contrast with Zebrawood or Santos Rosewood? Options are endless!
I haven't tried to remove it, but I assume its removable. If the arm I choose doesn't work with it, that's a good plan...just make a nice wood plug. While I don't have the tools here to do that, either, it'd be pretty easy to find somebody who could. I'm not even sure if I kept my big drill/hole saws. Don't ever panic move at the beginning of a pandemic!
 
Beautiful! I remember seeing that one, I believe it was cross-listed on Yahoo Japan as well. The armboard on those is indeed removable. I’m not sure what sort of tools one would need to cut metal that thick, having extra armboards made is a good idea. I can’t wait to see how it turns out once you put it all together!
 

BillWojo

Junior Member
That should really look nice. What mounts in front of the tonearm?
For a tonearm you might want to look at the Victor UA-7045 or UA-7082.
The 10" UA-7045 is more medium mass and the 12" UA-7082 is a heavy mass tonearm. Both are beautifully constructed and well engineered by Victor, no third party stuff here. On the fly VTA and anti skate as well.
Any idea of what carts you plan to use?
BTW, we need pics of that plinth once you get the TTS-8000 motor fitted.

BillWojo
 

JohnVF

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That should really look nice. What mounts in front of the tonearm?
For a tonearm you might want to look at the Victor UA-7045 or UA-7082.
The 10" UA-7045 is more medium mass and the 12" UA-7082 is a heavy mass tonearm. Both are beautifully constructed and well engineered by Victor, no third party stuff here. On the fly VTA and anti skate as well.
Any idea of what carts you plan to use?
BTW, we need pics of that plinth once you get the TTS-8000 motor fitted.

BillWojo
Pictures will certainly be on the way, though it’ll be a few days before I can dig out the motor. And lord knows where the bolts are as I didn’t use them in the previous way I had it mounted.

Victor arms are another consideration, thanks for the tip. It seems like I have room for a longish arm. Should have kept the Tokyo Sound arm I had, dang it.

Cart will be a re-cantilevered Ortofon Cadenza Bronze.

And the space in front of the arm cutout looks like it’s there to place a 45 adapter and/or center weight.
 

Ernie

Me
Apparently, the armboards were of varying types, hole patterns, edge shapes, and materials. The conventional wisdom, in the UK, is that a subcontractor made the armboards. Straight-edged, unless they are beveled, slotted hole for SME, unless the hole is round, slots marked with mm gradations, unless they are not, SBMC composite clad with hard aluminum, unless they are brass, or something else, interchangeable with other armboards from Resinamic, unless they are not, because of a different bolt pattern...

It would seem that making a custom board, for whatever arm you choose, would be the way to go, if the existing board is unsuitable.

These folks have garnered good press. Magna Audio - HiFi Products & Services (UK-based)
 

JohnVF

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Apparently, the armboards were of varying types, hole patterns, edge shapes, and materials. The conventional wisdom, in the UK, is that a subcontractor made the armboards. Straight-edged, unless they are beveled, slotted hole for SME, unless the hole is round, slots marked with mm gradations, unless they are not, SBMC composite clad with hard aluminum, unless they are brass, or something else, interchangeable with other armboards from Resinamic, unless they are not, because of a different bolt pattern...

It would seem that making a custom board, for whatever arm you choose, would be the way to go, if the existing board is unsuitable.

These folks have garnered good press. Magna Audio - HiFi Products & Services (UK-based)
Oh no I don't have the spirit level! Another thing to put an ebay watchout for. Seeing what pops up on my ebay watchlist is the only thing I wake up for these days...

Thank you, as usual you are a wealth of information. Have you looked at them for a table before? I had thought at one time they were affiliated with Sony, due to their use of SBMC, but then I saw other plinths for other tables pop up. I also have the prototype two-arm factory plinth for the TTS-8000 (it was part of the package when I bought the motor) in layered MDF but its far too big to be of use here. I could probably resell it to recoup some funds, though it seems like one of those things that could be neat as a "some day" thing.

Maybe by some magic the hole pattern will fit my Jelco arm. If not, I'll look into options, including what you sent. Cheers!
 

fiddlefye

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That looks great! I guess when you get the drive pulled out and set in place you can take some spindle-to-pivot measurements and see what you've got to work with. Eyeballs to me like it is drilled for something in the 10" range currently. Can the board be reoriented different ways? It looks to be a very precision thing so perhaps the screw holes will be equidistant?
 

JohnVF

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That looks great! I guess when you get the drive pulled out and set in place you can take some spindle-to-pivot measurements and see what you've got to work with. Eyeballs to me like it is drilled for something in the 10" range currently. Can the board be reoriented different ways? It looks to be a very precision thing so perhaps the screw holes will be equidistant?
I think the way those armboards work, they're drilled so you can rotate them to accommodate a few pivot to spindle distances. If I ever get to my parents' house (Covid concerns) I'll have access to an industrial-strength drill-press that used to be part of the Vought F-4U Corsair production line at Goodyear Aerospace in Akron, OH.... at that point I can make whatever I want.
 

prime minister

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Oh no I don't have the spirit level! Another thing to put an ebay watchout for. Seeing what pops up on my ebay watchlist is the only thing I wake up for these days...

Thank you, as usual you are a wealth of information. Have you looked at them for a table before? I had thought at one time they were affiliated with Sony, due to their use of SBMC, but then I saw other plinths for other tables pop up. I also have the prototype two-arm factory plinth for the TTS-8000 (it was part of the package when I bought the motor) in layered MDF but its far too big to be of use here. I could probably resell it to recoup some funds, though it seems like one of those things that could be neat as a "some day" thing.

Maybe by some magic the hole pattern will fit my Jelco arm. If not, I'll look into options, including what you sent. Cheers!
I have a few spirit levels on hand. Why don't you spin by on the way home from work and pick one up?
 

fiddlefye

Senior Member
I think the way those armboards work, they're drilled so you can rotate them to accommodate a few pivot to spindle distances. If I ever get to my parents' house (Covid concerns) I'll have access to an industrial-strength drill-press that used to be part of the Vought F-4U Corsair production line at Goodyear Aerospace in Akron, OH.... at that point I can make whatever I want.
That's what it looks like to me. The board on my Ariston RD-11s is similar in that regard. This drill press I gotta see...
 

JohnVF

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Stock bolts?
Yeah. I had them, so they're around somewhere. They're just black bolts, if need be I'll find others at the hardware store. Did I send them along with the table? I haven't even unboxed it, as there has been no place to put it.
 

JohnVF

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Well the Jelco doesn’t fit without modification to the board so ... time to investigate new boards. I’ll contact the place Ernie linked to.
 
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