ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 - an ongoing "review"

I got the Pioneer SP-BS21-LR an older design by Andrew Jones at a great price a while back and returned them quickly. The were dark and unnatural sounding and I like cheap speakers.

I rather like my SP-BS22-LR's. They are on my desk with a TubeCube integrated and Schiit Modi3 DAC as my daily driver. Perhaps they are a bit on the dark (East Coast) scale but I find them eminently listenable for long periods without fatigue. As always, I respect that YMMV and that's what makes this such an interesting hobby.
 
I actually found a working CR-2020 on the street last year (still needed service, but nevertheless), and got these ELACS to pair with it when they went on sale for $150 . I don't have the stands so the speakers just sit on the floor. I use the setup to listen to a jazz station on the radio or jazz/latin records on a hand-me-down record player. The sound is fine but a bit muffled . Playing with tone controls does improve things a bit . What do you have your tone control set to ?
 
I've enjoyed this thread.

I've been playing around with my Elac B6 (first version) and UB5 speakers just for fun.

In recent years I have been more fascinated with playing around with current (non-vintage), low-cost gear. Can I make a setup sound fab for small bucks.

I really like the B6 - a little more than the UB5. I know it is probably placement and stands, etc, but the B6 sound good to me. I currently have them hooked up to a newish Onkyo integrated connected to a streaming Sonos device.

Both Elacs are a bit bright, but overall I like how they reproduce the female voice, piano and most music.

Cheers and hello from an old friend.

Mark (aka Snade)

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opa1

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In recent years I have been more fascinated with playing around with current (non-vintage), low-cost gear. Can I make a setup sound fab for small bucks.
I like your thoughts! There's so much new gear to play with. Welcome to the Haven @Snade !
 

mhardy6647

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I actually found a working CR-2020 on the street last year (still needed service, but nevertheless), and got these ELACS to pair with it when they went on sale for $150 . I don't have the stands so the speakers just sit on the floor. I use the setup to listen to a jazz station on the radio or jazz/latin records on a hand-me-down record player. The sound is fine but a bit muffled . Playing with tone controls does improve things a bit . What do you have your tone control set to ?
"On the floor" is your fundamental "issue" based on my experience with these. As the instructions that come with the speaker indicate, get 'em up about 28 inches off the floor and they should be much better balanced.

EDIT: I see I didn't document that part of my experience with the ELACs terribly well here :( Sorry!

Here's the essence of my "discovery" (which would've come much quicker had I "RTFM").

Okey-dokey, (finally) the ELAC "DEBUT 2.0 B6.2" loudspeakers are, umm, speaking

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I believe the quality of their speech is dependent on every link in the supply chain. I hear differences with each change I throw at them.

Are they my favorites, er well, no. I prefer the UB5 as they are much larger sounding. That said, they UB5s were over twice as many greenbacks even on sale. I'm liking mine.

I use the small Pioneers (22s) on my desk for every day near-field listening and do not find them dark or muffled even via the minuscule TubeCube 7 integrated. I would describe the Pioneers and Elacs as smooth composed (the opposite of shouty). A tiny bit thick sounding but not unpleasantly so.

Just my two cents and YMMV.
 

prime minister

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Gentlemen.
Welcome to the Haven.
Please drop by our introduction forum and tell us more about you.
Glad to have you aboard!
 
Thanks, PM. I’ve been a member since last fall. I’ll do a formal introduction soon. I have been active on that other site for over 10 years and hosted a Chicago area get together for most of those years.
 
Put the ELACs on stools I found in the closet, so now they're somewhat up and the sound improved somewhat..I think . Sorry for the dark picture. Also, appreciate the little glass spice jars I use for pegs to prop up the record player above the receiver so that I don't block off ventilation .

Did you mess with tone controls on CR-2020 or you're bypassing it ?
 

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HepcatWilly

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@mhardy6647 I wonder how much of the problem is from your love and familiarity with horns?

I often hurt my kids ears with my tone controls in the car, I love but can't hear the higher frequencies. Drives them crazy, the little sled dogs.

I'm not sure about the model you have, but the UB5 are quite nice, and I agree with others, having them on an isolation stand really helped quite a bit. I have the Iso Stands, and now have the speakers on my desk seated on Auralex foam mounts.

You know I love the Allison tweeter sparkle, and I don't miss much with the UB5. Not exactly the same, but overall a very different experience than you're having.
 

mhardy6647

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With them up around two-plus feet off the ground -- the ELACs in question sound quite nice... especially at the pre-Christmas-sale price.
I'd say they're good even at their regular price. I wouldn't call them revelatory (at full price) but they are honest and pleasant and musical and attractive enough and nicely enough made; what's not to like?

At $150 the pair, they represent supreme value, I'd opine.

:)
 

mhardy6647

Señor Member
Put the ELACs on stools I found in the closet, so now they're somewhat up and the sound improved somewhat..I think . Sorry for the dark picture. Also, appreciate the little glass spice jars I use for pegs to prop up the record player above the receiver so that I don't block off ventilation .

Did you mess with tone controls on CR-2020 or you're bypassing it ?
I think, between the two of us, we've perfected the MacGyver Loudspeaker Deployment Stands. :)

... tone controls?!?! :confused:

;)
 
With them up around two-plus feet off the ground -- the ELACs in question sound quite nice... especially at the pre-Christmas-sale price.
I'd say they're good even at their regular price. I wouldn't call them revelatory (at full price) but they are honest and pleasant and musical and attractive enough and nicely enough made; what's not to like?

At $150 the pair, they represent supreme value, I'd opine.

:)

All true. I think we live at a moment in time when there is great value in good stereo all year long. And these pre-Christmas sales of Elac and other are pretty amazing.

Cheers,

Snade
 
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