future listening room

Ilusndweller

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Still 3-4 months away, but I cant wait. I had a similar setup 7 years ago, but in a small bedroom. This area is the combined carpeted dining/living room. The stereo will on on the top(in blueprint) wall and for room treatment I will hang a queenish size quilt on stereo wall, “back wall, and side wall.
Speakers B&W CDM1SE, bookshelf, 120W
Sub 1 12” Kicker Comp VR (complete with peeling sticker) from late 90s (400W) in a sealed MTX box (complete with plexiglass back) that is probably from the early 90s (worthy, ousted a 1k+ Velodyne)
Sub 2 NHT SW2Si 200W, speaker is 30 years old, made in Danmark and still going strong. Surround seems just fine.
Preamp - B&K AVP-1030. 1996. Though this is a 5.1 pre(ceiver, though the fm tuner sucks), I dont feel using it in stereo mode makes the sound any less quality. Great sounding D>A (I think it will best my Topping D30). Someone found out the dac in it and said it was mediocre, if so the output stage must really good. I will use the 80 Hz high pass to the amp that powers the B&Ws. The 80 Hz low pass will go to sub amps(it has 2 sub outs). The remote allows independent control of each sub (nice feature).

Ive done zero research, but there have got to be some mid 90s high end 5.1 pres to be had for pennies on the dollar that would be perfect for stereo use.

Sony TA-N55ES (because my Luxman M-120a is out of commission)- bridged (300W) to power NHT sub.
NAD 2700- bridged (400W) to power Kicker Comp VR. Great combo, loud and clean.

Kyocera A-910 integrated (150 W)- use preamp for phono only. Use amp section to power B&Ws.

CD player (mostly what I listen to)
Anything with coax out to go into either the built in dac of B&K AVP 1030 or a Topping D30 (if the B&K built in dac wins, the D30 is going in a different system).

Record player- I will have one, I just havent had a turntable set up in a while so need to figure out what my best option is.

DAT- Technics SVDA10? if memory serves

Cassette - Nakamichi base model 2 head deck (cr-1a?)

I will have a stereo-mini-to-rca cable for the very rare occasion I want to listen to something from my ipad/the internet.

For starters Ill try one of the subs(prob the kicker) tucked back by the stairs and facing into the room, parallel to (and against) the wall. The NHT will be in the upper right corner, facing down. I might simplify powering the subs with a single Forte Model 3 (200W). In the past, the 200W Forte powered the 400W kicker just fine, but this is a bigger room so we’ll see.

What am I thinking next? I want to biamp(Im mostly concerned about tweeter, I dont care too much if woofer sees the highest/tweeter frequencies), but passively which most people frown upon, though Im not sure why. Specifically I am considering buying some Harrison Labs high pass “rca style” filters @ same frequency that B&W rolls off inside the speakers. Can someone confirm that for benefits to be noticeable, the crossovers inside the speakers need to be removed (then the Harrison labs high pass plugs go bw the b&k pre and the sub amps)? Is there any benefit to be had for the sound of the tweeter if the internal crossover is left in place but the Harrison labs inline RCA filters are used?

Thanks!
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TubeHiFiNut

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Still 3-4 months away, but I cant wait. I had a similar setup 7 years ago, but in a small bedroom. This area is the combined carpeted dining/living room. The stereo will on on the top(in blueprint) wall and for room treatment I will hang a queenish size quilt on stereo wall, “back wall, and side wall.
Speakers B&W CDM1SE, bookshelf, 120W
Sub 1 12” Kicker Comp VR (complete with peeling sticker) from late 90s (400W) in a sealed MTX box (complete with plexiglass back) that is probably from the early 90s (worthy, ousted a 1k+ Velodyne)
Sub 2 NHT SW2Si 200W, speaker is 30 years old, made in Danmark and still going strong. Surround seems just fine.
Preamp - B&K AVP-1030. 1996. Though this is a 5.1 pre(ceiver, though the fm tuner sucks), I dont feel using it in stereo mode makes the sound any less quality. Great sounding D>A (I think it will best my Topping D30). Someone found out the dac in it and said it was mediocre, if so the output stage must really good. I will use the 80 Hz high pass to the amp that powers the B&Ws. The 80 Hz low pass will go to sub amps(it has 2 sub outs). The remote allows independent control of each sub (nice feature).

Ive done zero research, but there have got to be some mid 90s high end 5.1 pres to be had for pennies on the dollar that would be perfect for stereo use.

Sony TA-N55ES (because my Luxman M-120a is out of commission)- bridged (300W) to power NHT sub.
NAD 2700- bridged (400W) to power Kicker Comp VR. Great combo, loud and clean.

Kyocera A-910 integrated (150 W)- use preamp for phono only. Use amp section to power B&Ws.

CD player (mostly what I listen to)
Anything with coax out to go into either the built in dac of B&K AVP 1030 or a Topping D30 (if the B&K built in dac wins, the D30 is going in a different system).

Record player- I will have one, I just havent had a turntable set up in a while so need to figure out what my best option is.

DAT- Technics SVDA10? if memory serves

Cassette - Nakamichi base model 2 head deck (cr-1a?)

I will have a stereo-mini-to-rca cable for the very rare occasion I want to listen to something from my ipad/the internet.

For starters Ill try one of the subs(prob the kicker) tucked back by the stairs and facing into the room, parallel to (and against) the wall. The NHT will be in the upper right corner, facing down. I might simplify powering the subs with a single Forte Model 3 (200W). In the past, the 200W Forte powered the 400W kicker just fine, but this is a bigger room so we’ll see.

What am I thinking next? I want to biamp(Im mostly concerned about tweeter, I dont care too much if woofer sees the highest/tweeter frequencies), but passively which most people frown upon, though Im not sure why. Specifically I am considering buying some Harrison Labs high pass “rca style” filters @ same frequency that B&W rolls off inside the speakers. Can someone confirm that for benefits to be noticeable, the crossovers inside the speakers need to be removed (then the Harrison labs high pass plugs go bw the b&k pre and the sub amps)? Is there any benefit to be had for the sound of the tweeter if the internal crossover is left in place but the Harrison labs inline RCA filters are used?

Thanks!
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Very interesting. Really looking forward to your listening impressions.

And, of course, pictures. :)
 

Ilusndweller

Junior Member
Thanks! Ill snap some pics the next time I am there. There is a 3-4 month wait to bring natural gas 150 feet down the road (and 250 feet from the road to the house). This has been a long time in the making. I bought this property in 2012, spent 2 years fixing up the old house (fun stuff like replacing rotting walls one 2x4 at a time) then tore it down (me, myself, and a sledgehammer, fun whacking the final 2x4 that held up the house). I then added about 1.5 feet of fill dirt to the footprint (leeches live in my “soil”, I have a vernal pool that lasts until Sept) and got a prefab (came in 2 pieces which they latched together with pins). Small and basic but thats all I wanted(and could afford). Ive mostly been living in small rooms for it seems like forever (bc I have) and cant wait to finally have my “full rig” set up in anything but a small bedroom. The B&K pre must have some type of “smart sensor” bc it never allows me to turn up the volume to the point of audible clipping (like when I power the b&ws@120W with the Forte@200W, no matter how I adjust the various gains on the pre, it still never lets me turn it up to audible clipping). And that volume is plenty loud. Thanks again. Pic is from 1.5 months ago and shows front of house/listening room. Part of system is shown.4187C710-7381-4A7D-BFF4-8EE3DB01F203.jpeg
 

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Still 3-4 months away.....

Or 19.5. I finally got my occupancy permit and moved most of my stuff in on Sunday. Plans have changed and the setup described earlier (and since improved upon and simplified) will instead be my bedroom system. I will soon have a "new to me" setup in my main listening room. The couch will be moved about 5 feet back, maybe more, to hopefully give my Carver Amazing MK4 enough room to "breathe". A6C7B4C4-7F1C-42B7-998A-F4352CF4AA7D.jpeg
 
At just over a half century years old, I spent my first night in my first house last night. By tonight I am hoping to have my first 2 systems set up. Today I will be picking up my Carver Amazing Silver MK4 from 2 houses up the street where they have been sitting in the basement for nearly a year (boxes on left in pic).

My "mini hardy mancave", on the other hand, is a ways off from being set up (or finished for that matter:)).
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Thanks! The floor is carpet. These speakers are a huge upgrade up from my B&W CDM-1SE. And thanks to Pat McGinty, they are getting the 750W that Bob Carver says they can handle in the instruction manual. If it wasnt for The Haven, this system would not exist. Thank you :Bow:patriot: The Haven:patriot::Bow and Thank you :Bow PMG:Bow!
 
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