Happy Canada Day!

fiddlefye

Senior Member
It is an odd Canada Day here - no parade coming by a few doors down the street, no party by the lake. We shall muddle through anyway! One other thing - I've always put up both Canadian and US flags, partly because my wife is American and partly because we live in a border city. This year my wife refused to have the US flag flying, only partly because she is afraid people will take offense. What we have come to.. so Katrina is making a Pirate flag and we'll fly that instead!
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writethis

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Happy Canada Day! Speaking as one of your neighbors to the south, no offense taken on this year’s flag choices. My wife and I were fortunate to be in Vancouver for your 150th. Wishing we could be up there now. (Or in Windsor, TO, QC or pretty much anywhere in the still-civilized world.)
 
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prime minister

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And a Happy Canada Day to you all. My first Canada day in civilization, and away from the insanity that Toronto has become. Nigh onto two physical altercations (Covid related) in the last three days there. It’s enough.
 

Kpatch

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And a Happy Canada Day to you all. My first Canada day in civilization, and away from the insanity that Toronto has become. Nigh onto two physical altercations (Covid related) in the last three days there. It’s enough.
Happy Canada Day to all my Canadian near neighbors!

And what do you mean, PM “Nigh onto two physical altercations (Covid related) in the last three days there. It’s enough.”
 

prime minister

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Happy Canada Day to all my Canadian near neighbors!

And what do you mean, PM “Nigh onto two physical altercations (Covid related) in the last three days there. It’s enough.”

As in, nigh onto fist fights breaking out. With me involved. The people in my not too lowbrow a neighborhood were getting very rough around Covid protection measures. They were turning quite literally into a mob. Not fun.
 

Ernie

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They must have been at least somewhat lowbrow. In a fistfight, I like your chances, sir, based at least partly on the 'Tale of the Tape'.

Beyond that, you have the added benefit of having even the slightest remaining doubt driven from your mind. As each mile passed behind you, the relief must have grown increasingly palpable. Truly, it's a different world for you, now.
 

prime minister

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They must have been at least somewhat lowbrow. In a fistfight, I like your chances, sir, based at least partly on the 'Tale of the Tape'.

Beyond that, you have the added benefit of having even the slightest remaining doubt driven from your mind. As each mile passed behind you, the relief must have grown increasingly palpable. Truly, it's a different world for you, now.

It took a while for the relief to set in. I’d been going non stop, it seems, for over a month. First was just plain exhaustion. But now, I’m starting to see it and feel it. And yes, the doubt is gone.

There is truth in what you say. While the area is, for Toronto, not particularly lowbrow, Toronto itself is now so lowbrow that the good areas are no longer that good. I miss what it was, but there is no use in pining for something that is lost.
 
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fiddlefye

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It took a while for the relief to set in. I’d been going non stop, it seems, for over a month. First was just plain exhaustion. But now, I’m starting to see it and feel it. And yes, the doubt is gone.

There is truth in what you say. While the area is, for Toronto, not particularly lowbrow, Toronto itself is now so lowbrow that the good areas are no longer that good. I miss what it was, but there is no use in pining for something that is lost.
I jumped ship and fled Toronto 36 years ago today. To me it was just around a sort of turning point and things have gone downhill ever since. More flash, less substance and a lot less gentility. The laid-back hippie vibe I loved is but a distant memory.
 

JoeThePop

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Happy belated Canada Day. Working for FCA in Michigan we have quite a few Canadians working in our facility (which I haven't been physically in since mid-March). I made sure to IM the 2 Canadians in my group and wish them a happy Canada Day yesterday, and jokingly ask them if they had eaten any poutine or ketchup flavored potato chips.
One of them sent me this commercial last year.
 

Kpatch

Junior Member
Well, I still want to move to CA but not to Toronto.

Our former neighbors were Canadians, doctors to be, who came down to finish their degrees/internships, work off their debt in the ER and then, supposedly to go home. He was a Polish Canadian from Toronto; she was from Montreal. He was an unfriendly snob who disliked Americans and being here; she was lovely and funny and wanted her two kids to be born here, and so they were. His ancient grandmother came from Poland to be a nanny for the babies. She didn’t speak a word of English but we had long, over the fence, animated conversations , apparently about gardening. I didn’t understand a word of it. Their house was of modest size, 1500 sqft, and they told me that a house of comparable size in Toronto would cost 1.5 million.

I worked with a transplanted dean from Mississauga who described herself as being from Toronto. When I mentioned that I had thought about moving to the Guelph/Elora area - having been to Guelph for the last 16 years for the jazz festival - she asked me “why the hell would you want to move there.” I shared that with Guelph friends who described it as a ‘Toronto’ attitude.
 

prime minister

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Well, I still want to move to CA but not to Toronto.

Our former neighbors were Canadians, doctors to be, who came down to finish their degrees/internships, work off their debt in the ER and then, supposedly to go home. He was a Polish Canadian from Toronto; she was from Montreal. He was an unfriendly snob who disliked Americans and being here; she was lovely and funny and wanted her two kids to be born here, and so they were. His ancient grandmother came from Poland to be a nanny for the babies. She didn’t speak a word of English but we had long, over the fence, animated conversations , apparently about gardening. I didn’t understand a word of it. Their house was of modest size, 1500 sqft, and they told me that a house of comparable size in Toronto would cost 1.5 million.

I worked with a transplanted dean from Mississauga who described herself as being from Toronto. When I mentioned that I had thought about moving to the Guelph/Elora area - having been to Guelph for the last 16 years for the jazz festival - she asked me “why the hell would you want to move there.” I shared that with Guelph friends who described it as a ‘Toronto’ attitude.

You’ve, sadly, nailed what Toronto has become. It’s heartbreaking, as it used to be a wonderful city. A small town friendliness with a city population. Now the sense of entitlement is enormous and the attitude nasty and self centred. It made leaving it easy.
 

prime minister

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I jumped ship and fled Toronto 36 years ago today. To me it was just around a sort of turning point and things have gone downhill ever since. More flash, less substance and a lot less gentility. The laid-back hippie vibe I loved is but a distant memory.

It was still a decent town well into 90s. It suffered greatly through the recession of the early 90s. Then the city elders decided that we needed to become a “world class city”, whatever that might be, and set about wiping away any of the leftover vestiges of what was once a unique and wonderful city.
 

fiddlefye

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It was still a decent town well into 90s. It suffered greatly through the recession of the early 90s. Then the city elders decided that we needed to become a “world class city”, whatever that might be, and set about wiping away any of the leftover vestiges of what was once a unique and wonderful city.
I agree, but the seeds were already taking root by the mid-80s. I looked around and realized that the possibility of having the sort of life I wanted were getting slim, headed to slimmer. I go back to visit a few times a year and find it even more remote from my rose-coloured recollections. There are wonderful things and areas I love, but the attitudes and cost of living...
 
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