Magnepan 1.7i vs. Martin Logan ESL 8

JohnVF

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A good friend of mine has a medium sized racing sailboat. A slight grounding while coming into dock in spring cost him about $20,000 and to make up for the lost season he's having it shipped to the Bahamas for the winter. What's a few cables in the face of that????

I'm happy the Magnepans are working out, and that they're proving to not be as genre-specific as I've feared they would be from my auditions with them. That's the difference between store auditions, and having the time to figure things out in your own space.

Another amp option to consider might be a McCormack? I'm only speaking from having auditioned them with other speakers, but I had felt at the time that they'd be a good match for Maggies.
 

MWalt

Active Member
A good friend of mine has a medium sized racing sailboat. A slight grounding while coming into dock in spring cost him about $20,000 and to make up for the lost season he's having it shipped to the Bahamas for the winter. What's a few cables in the face of that????

I'm happy the Magnepans are working out, and that they're proving to not be as genre-specific as I've feared they would be from my auditions with them. That's the difference between store auditions, and having the time to figure things out in your own space.

Another amp option to consider might be a McCormack? I'm only speaking from having auditioned them with other speakers, but I had felt at the time that they'd be a good match for Maggies.
Boats and cars are a money pit for sure *sigh*.

In all fairness, I think the 1.7i's need a sub(s) to sound their best. Otherwise, they probably wouldn't be able to do most genre's of music well. I have both my Rythmik F12 and REL T/5i in the system now because I like a full bottom end. Some may not need them.

If I could find a bargain on a high power/high current amp like Krell, McCormack, Bryston, Levinson, etc. I would jump on it. Even an older one would suffice providing it has been serviced/recapped. I really liked the Bryston, but my buddy won't let it go.

So far I am pleasantly surprised by the Emo. Some may go nose up on it, but it has gobs of reserve power and the sound quality is really good. Works well with the tube preamp. Not quite as good as the Bryston, but not a wide gap either. Very close. More reserve power too. I can get 85-90 db of sound pressure and have a lot left. That is about as loud as I would ever play music anyway and not for any sustained amount of time either. I am going to continue to break the Emo in and keep looking. I also have some balanced cables I am breaking in as well. I am having fun with all of this though.
 

MWalt

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I just talked to Klaus from Odyssey Audio. He has a pair of 1.7's and is going to build me an amp to match my Magnepan 1.7i's. He says his amp is magnificent with his 1.7's. I ordered the Odyssey Khartago maxed out with ALL of the upgrades and then some. Some of the upgrades: Xtreme PS, SE Board, Groneberg TS Premium power cable, upgraded binding posts, midline caps, 120,000 AuF of capacitance (memory bank), balanced and unbalanced inputs, upgraded internals and I am getting it in silver to match my Freya Plus. The only bad news is the 5 week wait.

The XPA-2 is going back, not because I don't like it, but I honestly believe that the maxed out Khartago will be a big upgrade. The good news is that the Emo came from Franklin, TN, which is only an hour and a half away. I am going to drive it back and take my wife out for a weekend in Nashville while I am there. Let's just hope this is the last attempt at getting just the right amp. My Magnepan journey just keeps getting more and more interesting.
 
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JohnVF

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I just talked to Klaus from Odyssey Audio. He has a pair of 1.7's and is going to build me an amp to match my Magnepan 1.7i's. He says his amp is magnificent with his 1.7's. I ordered the Odyssey Khartago maxed out with ALL of the upgrades and then some. Some of the upgrades: Xtreme PS, SE Board, Groneberg TS Premium power cable, upgraded binding posts, midline caps, 120,000 AuF of capacitance (memory bank), balanced and unbalanced inputs, upgraded internals and I am getting it in silver to match my Freya Plus. The only bad news is the 5 week wait.

The XPA-2 is going back, not because I don't like it, but I honestly believe that the maxed out Khartago will be a big upgrade. The good news is that the Emo came from Franklin, TN, which is only an hour and a half away. I am going to drive it back and take my wife out for a weekend in Nashville while I am there. Let's just hope this is the last attempt at getting just the right amp. My Magnepan journey just keeps getting more and more interesting.
Good luck! I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the maxxed out Khartago, and amp I've come close to purchasing a number of times. That Klaus owns 1.7s is a great sign.
 

StevenZ

Pending Gold Star Member
I just talked to Klaus from Odyssey Audio. He has a pair of 1.7's and is going to build me an amp to match my Magnepan 1.7i's. He says his amp is magnificent with his 1.7's. I ordered the Odyssey Khartago maxed out with ALL of the upgrades and then some. Some of the upgrades: Xtreme PS, SE Board, Groneberg TS Premium power cable, upgraded binding posts, midline caps, 120,000 AuF of capacitance (memory bank), balanced and unbalanced inputs, upgraded internals and I am getting it in silver to match my Freya Plus. The only bad news is the 5 week wait.

The XPA-2 is going back, not because I don't like it, but I honestly believe that the maxed out Khartago will be a big upgrade. The good news is that the Emo came from Franklin, TN, which is only an hour and a half away. I am going to drive it back and take my wife out for a weekend in Nashville while I am there. Let's just hope this is the last attempt at getting just the right amp. My Magnepan journey just keeps getting more and more interesting.
Cool man! I’m glad you’re getting one. I’ve wanted one for years just never pulled the trigger on it. Definitely interested in your thoughts
 

GuyK

Junior Member
I just talked to Klaus from Odyssey Audio. He has a pair of 1.7's and is going to build me an amp to match my Magnepan 1.7i's. He says his amp is magnificent with his 1.7's. I ordered the Odyssey Khartago maxed out with ALL of the upgrades and then some. Some of the upgrades: Xtreme PS, SE Board, Groneberg TS Premium power cable, upgraded binding posts, midline caps, 120,000 AuF of capacitance (memory bank), balanced and unbalanced inputs, upgraded internals and I am getting it in silver to match my Freya Plus. The only bad news is the 5 week wait.

The XPA-2 is going back, not because I don't like it, but I honestly believe that the maxed out Khartago will be a big upgrade. The good news is that the Emo came from Franklin, TN, which is only an hour and a half away. I am going to drive it back and take my wife out for a weekend in Nashville while I am there. Let's just hope this is the last attempt at getting just the right amp. My Magnepan journey just keeps getting more and more interesting.
I think you'll like the Khartago. I have an upgraded Stratos, and it does pretty well with my Martin Logans.
 

MWalt

Active Member
I think you'll like the Khartago. I have an upgraded Stratos, and it does pretty well with my Martin Logans.
That's sounds very promising. My concern is the Khartago's ability to drive the maggies with authority. According to Klaus, I am getting an upgraded Stratos in a Khartago chassis. A Khartago "on steroids" is kind of how he explained it.

Did the break in take a long time? Klaus explained that I need to be patient with break in.
 

GuyK

Junior Member
That's sounds very promising. My concern is the Khartago's ability to drive the maggies with authority. According to Klaus, I am getting an upgraded Stratos in a Khartago chassis. A Khartago "on steroids" is kind of how he explained it.

Did the break in take a long time? Klaus explained that I need to be patient with break in.
I don't know how long break-in took as I got the unit second hand. Upgraded Stratos in Khartago chassis? I think Stratos has larger heat-sinks, and mine gets warm with the 'stats. My Sequel II's are less than 4ohm from 70 -600, and under 2 ohm above 10k. The Magnepans have a pretty flat impedance curve, but do still dip to around 2ohm from 10k-20k hz.
 

MWalt

Active Member
I don't know how long break-in took as I got the unit second hand. Upgraded Stratos in Khartago chassis? I think Stratos has larger heat-sinks, and mine gets warm with the 'stats. My Sequel II's are less than 4ohm from 70 -600, and under 2 ohm above 10k. The Magnepans have a pretty flat impedance curve, but do still dip to around 2ohm from 10k-20k hz.
Maybe I call Klaus and have him change the chassis to Stratos chassis. Just to keep the amp cool. FWIW, the Emo XPA-2 stays cool even at ear bleeding volume levels. So much reserve power in that beast.
 

GuyK

Junior Member
Maybe I call Klaus and have him change the chassis to Stratos chassis. Just to keep the amp cool. FWIW, the Emo XPA-2 stays cool even at ear bleeding volume levels. So much reserve power in that beast.

It certainly wouldn't hurt to at least discuss with him. My Stratos doesn't get hot, but does get noticeably warm.
 

MWalt

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It certainly wouldn't hurt to at least discuss with him. My Stratos doesn't get hot, but does get noticeably warm.
He said that he sets the bias so that the amp only gets 5-6 degrees above room temp. I had to take voltage readings from the outlet that the amp will be plugged in to and provide him an average. He said he should have the amp done this weekend and shipped soon after.

Another note: I know that Emotiva is more of a "mid-fi" brand, but they run a first class operation. Great customer service! Their HQ is located in a very nice area and looked more like a nice office complex than an audio outlet. It was easy to return the amp; stopped in, provided an RMA number, and gave them the amp. Money was refunded in 2 days.
 

StevenZ

Pending Gold Star Member
He said that he sets the bias so that the amp only gets 5-6 degrees above room temp. I had to take voltage readings from the outlet that the amp will be plugged in to and provide him an average. He said he should have the amp done this weekend and shipped soon after.

Another note: I know that Emotiva is more of a "mid-fi" brand, but they run a first class operation. Great customer service! Their HQ is located in a very nice area and looked more like a nice office complex than an audio outlet. It was easy to return the amp; stopped in, provided an RMA number, and gave them the amp. Money was refunded in 2 days.
I had an Emotiva XPA2 a long time ago and found it more than adequate in comparison to the other gear I had at the time.
 
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