Mind Blown - turning in audiophile card for a Theater (!?) sound system

S0und Dragon

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Oooo. @jblnut I have questions! Firstly, is it line level or is it bumped like most pro equipment. Also, how did you integrate it into your system?
 
It's line level and I inserted it into the chain between my preamp and my amps. I use all XLR balanced cables anyway so it was easy. I have been using the older PA + for years as a sub xover but that was on a second output. This time I put the 360 in between the C1000 and the 501's so it could work on the EQ to my mains as well as the sub. I've never had better sub integration than I have now and it found a lot of peaks and valleys to correct in my (untreated) room. I am going to run through the auto eq again tonight as I realize I didn't put the mic in the correct measurement positions according to their instructions.

I had done this with the PA + a decade ago and I could just "hear" it in the chain. Now (when bypassed) with the 360 I cannot. I believe the PA+ was 24/44 and the 360 is 24/96. It's silent, and transparent - and the iPad app is cool as hell! I love being able to play with the sub crossover slopes, parametric and graphic eq slopes, etc right from my couch. It's 1/10 the cost of the McIntosh MEN220 that I always wanted to play with, and that had no remote interface.
 
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Specifications​


Input(3) analog line inputs/(2) AES digital inputs (shared connectors), (1) RTA mic input
Input Connectors(3) female XLRs (2 selectable between analog/AES digital audio formats), (1) female XLR RTA mic input
Input TypeElectronically balanced/RF filtered
Input Impedance> 30 kΩ, balanced line to line
Max Input Level (line inputs)> +28 dBu, balanced, ≤1% THD
CMRR> 50 dB @ 1 kHz
RTA Mic Preamp Phantom Power+48 VDC
Output(6) Line Outputs
Output ConnectorsMale XLR
Output TypeElectronically balanced, RF filtered
Output Impedance120 Ω, balanced line to line
Max Output Level+22 dBu, balanced, ≤1% THD
Alignment DelayUp to 1000 ms per output channel
A/D Converter24-bit with dbx Type IV™ Conversion System
A/D Dynamic Range117 dB A-weighted, 114 dB unweighted, 22 kHz BW
Type IV Dynamic Range129 dB with transient material, A-weighted, 22 kHz BW; 126 dB with transient material, unweighted, 22 kHz BW; 121 dB typical with program material, A-weighted, 22 kHz BW
D/A Converter24-bit
D/A Dynamic Range116 dB A-weighted, 113 dB unweighted, 22 kHz BW
Internal Processing Wordlength32-bit floating point
Supported Sample Rates48/96 kHz (32-192 kHz using sample rate conversion)
System Performance Dynamic Range114 dB A-weighted; 110 dB unweighted
THD+Noise0.0025% typical at +4 dBu, 1 kHz, 0 dB input gain
Frequency Response20 Hz – 20 kHz, +0 /- 0.5 dB
Interchannel Crosstalk< -97 dB, -105 dB typical 20-20 kHz, +4 dBu, all channels measured
LatencyAnalog input to output: 2.57 ms (48 kHz), 2.28 ms (96 kHz); Digital AES input to output: 2.31 (48 kHz), 2.15 ms (96 kHz)
Operating Voltage100-240 VAC 50/60 Hz
Power Consumption18 W
Unit Weight5.48 lbs. (2.49 kg)
Shipping Weight7.10 lbs. (3.22 kg)
Dimensions1.75” (H) x 8.0” (D) x 19” (W), 4.4cm (H) x 20.32cm (D) x 48.26cm (W)
 

S0und Dragon

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This appears to be a more affordable version of what I had hoped the new DSpeaker X4 ended up as. I am seriously interested but cautious. Glad you are liking it. There was a thread over on ASR about it. But I don’t venture there much these days.
 
It's definitely Pro gear (+4 db) but it seems to have no issue with my consumer (-10db) gear. It never makes any noises whatsoever (pops, clicks, hums) and it goes into a protective mute mode whenever you are in the auto tuning wizards. I was nervous about anything directly connected to 500 watt amps, but it has behaved like a champ.

For half the cost, the PA2 looks like a good bet too if you don't want direct digital in. I almost bought one and then this 360 popped up on CL. So many pro sound guys are dumping their rigs now because covid just killed the live sound market. There are tons of both units available now both online and on CL.
 
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S0und Dragon

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This would work for me as I use one of my line outs to feed pro bump boxes for my Benchmark studio meters. A ridiculous little luxury for what is essentially bouncing meters. This would at least render that setup functional. Last question at the moment, does it have bypass capability?
 
I guess that depends on your definition of "bypass". All of the filters can be disabled one by one in the app or the UI on the front panel. But if you're looking for something like a relay "click' for a total analog bypass of the DA/AD I am not sure if that's possible.
 
I went through the same thing. I had an MCS system that we bought when we first were married in 79. These came up for sale at a local garage sale for pennies and replaced the MCS.

Voice of the theater with 515 woofers, 1505 horns with 2 288 CDs on each horn, and a Beyma tweeter between the cab and horn.

Ruined my life for ever. 👍😁👍

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I went through the same thing. I had an MCS system that we bought when we first were married in 79. These came up for sale at a local garage sale for pennies and replaced the MCS.

Voice of the theater with 515 woofers, 1505 horns with 2 288 CDs on each horn, and a Beyma tweeter between the cab and horn.

Ruined my life for ever. 👍😁👍

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Killer set up with the 1505s!
Are you using 8 ohm crossovers since you have 2) 288 per?
I'm looking for 16ohm super tweeters but assume your beymas are 8
 
Killer set up with the 1505s!
Are you using 8 ohm crossovers since you have 2) 288 per?
I'm looking for 16ohm super tweeters but assume your beymas are 8
I forgot how I set it up. It's been awhile. I started chasing high quality and all along it was right in front of me.
 
Looking at the picture close brought it back to me. A Crown 150 drove the woofers, a 300B tube amp drove the horns, and a T amp drove the tweeters. All through a 3 way active crossover.
 
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