Thermionics

Post Whore In Training
Thank you.
My internals will look similar with what I use to have, for sure not a hat.
I am not sure if I will add a LPS or not. For now, I am using a medical SPS for 12v input, works fine.
In the FPD file, the bits highlighted in red are the main (e.g. non-hat) I/O connection holes for the CM4. Everything else is up to how you configure (for example the round connector on the upper right-hand side was for a mini XLR connector used to power the Isolator 2 + HiFiBerry Digi+PRO from an external 5V LPS).

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The height was for 11mm standoffs (if I'm remembering correctly) above the bottom panel, which was flush with the bottom edge of the back panel.
 

Don Ivey

Junior Member
John Darko just pointed out that Volumio now supports Tidal Connect with the Raspi as a renderer. I wonder if anyone has heard any rumors as to whether MoOde will offer Tidal Connect support in the future?
 

MikeyFresh

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John Darko just pointed out that Volumio now supports Tidal Connect with the Raspi as a renderer. I wonder if anyone has heard any rumors as to whether MoOde will offer Tidal Connect support in the future?
Only offered on Volumio with their paid MyVolumio Virtuoso and Superstar subscription services.

Both TIDAL and Qobuz integration on Volumio require the paid MyVolumio subscription, unless you are streaming them from an app such as mconnect HD, or BubbleUPnP, which also aren't free but a much less expensive way to do it, as compared to the price tag of MyVolumio.

Free distros such as Moode will not ever make this sort of thing available unless the likes of TIDAL agree to give it away for free. Seeing as they are currently losing big bucks every quarter, TIDAL is not likely to ever give the Connect feature away for free.

But as far as what it actually does, which is stream from the cloud to a 3rd party streamer device such as a Raspberry Pi, you can already do that with either the mconnect HD, or BubbleUPnP app.

Will you always get that functionality out of those apps? Maybe not, if/when the next time a contract negotiation takes place TIDAL or Qobuz could try to dramatically increase what they are charging mconnect HD or BubbleUPnP, and if so they could either be forced to drop that integration, or perhaps offer it as an in-app purchase for substantially more money than they are charging right now, which is $4.39 for BubbleUPnP, and $5.99 for mconnect HD.

MyVolumio has various other bells and whistles, but is €28.99 for the Virtuoso level subscription, and €66.99 for the Superstar level subscription. You be the judge if the features offered are worth that kind of money to you, I personally opt for the 3rd party apps instead to get my Qobuz integration.
 

MikeyFresh

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@MikeyFresh .
Finally figured out the bubbleupnp thing and have Qobus playing from it. 😁
That's great, give it a good whirl and it should prove completely stable and repeatable in performance. If so, you could then ditch the expense of the MyVolumio subscription, the BubbleUPnP app will provide you with the necessary Qobuz integration.

Additionally, if Volumio gives you any more grief, trust me when I say we can get your RPi 4B running Moode 7.2.0 no sweat, and that BubbleUPnP app will also stream Qobuz directly to Moode's UPnP renderer mode without glitches or headaches. Moode looks like this in BubbleUPnP:

BubbleQobuz.jpeg

That then looks like this in any web browser:

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But you can't initiate that Qobuz stream from a web browser, both TIDAL and Qobuz broke that previously working feature on purpose, so you need a paid app such as BubbleUPnP or mconnect HD to select the tracks and play them, the web browser can only display that, but not initiate/control it.
 

MikeyFresh

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@MikeyFresh .
Finally figured out the bubbleupnp thing and have Qobus playing from it. 😁
Upon second thought and seeing you posted this in the Moode thread, I'm thinking you meant you got the BubbleUPnP app running Qobuz with your Moode card installed in the RPi 4B, and not Volumio?

If so bravo!
 

MikeyFresh

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Moode Audio Player 7.2.1 is now available as a downloadable disk image, or as an in-place update to existing Moode 7.2.0 instances. The update takes less than 1 minute, after which a restart is required.
Code:
########################################################
//
// 2021-05-06 TC moOde 7.2.1
//
########################################################

Updates

- UPD: Use ALSA auto bit depth conversion if needed
- UPD: Improve help text on Audio Config
- UPD: Bump to shairport-sync 3.3.8

Bug fixes

- FIX: Input source volknob_mpd not being reset
- FIX: Typo in .xinitrc param enable-features
- FIX: Album tag not processed for HTML entities
- FIX: Paths > 256 chars not handled by thmcache
- FIX: Wrong rate shown in Audioinfo for DSD256 and higher

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Thermionics

Post Whore In Training
@MikeyFresh - wondering if you have any advice on good wireless USB network adapters for Raspberry Pi? I've been having all sorts of reliability problems with the two dongles I've tried with my Pi4CM setup. Before I shell out the long green for an electrician to put a CAT6 drop in my living room, I'd like to see if it's simply bad choices. The ones I've tried:

LOTEKOO
TP-Link

If not, no worries, but I figured I'd ask the expert here. Reliability seemed to get worse when I made the leap to Moode 7.x.x
 

MikeyFresh

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@MikeyFresh - wondering if you have any advice on good wireless USB network adapters for Raspberry Pi? I've been having all sorts of reliability problems with the two dongles I've tried with my Pi4CM setup. Before I shell out the long green for an electrician to put a CAT6 drop in my living room, I'd like to see if it's simply bad choices. The ones I've tried:

LOTEKOO
TP-Link

If not, no worries, but I figured I'd ask the expert here. Reliability seemed to get worse when I made the leap to Moode 7.x.x
Hmmm, I'm not sure what would change with the move to Moode 7.x.x given it is a USB adapter, however anything goes there I guess as it relates to the Linux kernel.

A chip thats supposed to work is the Ralink 5370, and that is what's supposed to be in that LOTEKOO device you have, however I've seen many references over the years to silent hardware revisions to these kinds of devices where the chip is changed, but never noted. Then people buy them thinking they are getting a known compatible unit, and that's just no longer the case.

I'm not sure what the command is to get the unit to report on itself, but there should be a way to do that and find out if that LOTEKOO is in fact using the chip specified or not.

This same issue exists with dongles that work (or not) with older Blu-ray players such as Oppo, that run older Linux kernel versions.

The Moode Readme says this:

WIFI ADAPTERS THAT ARE REPORTED TO SUPPORT AP MODE
  • Comfast CF-912AC dual-band WiFi adapter
  • For all other adapters consult the manufacturer
Now granted thats for using a dongle in lieu of the RPi's onboard WiFi just to get the initial setup/config done, so I'm not really sure that applies for all usage. I do have the Comfast CF-912AC and it works, or at least it did whenever I actually used it a million years ago (with RPi 3B), so I wouldn't know with Moode 7.x.x but I can try it again, I still have it.

I did also recently buy another generic WiFi adapter said to use a "Mideatek (sp.) RT5370N" chipset, it is supposed to be compatible with both Raspberry Pi and Oppo Blu-ray players, but I haven't actually tried it yet. I should do so, as the Amazon return window closes on June 13th. Not a big spend, but if it doesn't work I'd have no real reason to keep it.


 

MikeyFresh

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Staff member
I don't know which one that is - I was searching the forums on moodeaudio.org and didn't have any luck. Do you have a link to the details?

I'm pretty sure your TP-link is one of the ones said to have made a silent hardware change and left the model number the same. Unless yours is an older example, thats probably the issue there.
 

MikeyFresh

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Staff member
Alright I just connected that generic one I linked to above, did the config in Moode's network tab, and restarted with Ethernet removed, now playing Naim Radio's FLAC stream with seemingly no issue. Let's up the ante and stream a high-res file from my local server...
 

MikeyFresh

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Staff member
The Aimee Mann album in DSD64 ran straight through over that WiFi dongle, no stutters or glitches:

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Let's try 24/192kHz PCM, which are even larger file sizes than DSD64...
 

Thermionics

Post Whore In Training
I'll give the Comfast a try. It's just weird - in both cases, the wifi would work for a while, and then just go dead (e.g. no lights on the USB dongle). The only solution at that point is to pull the power connector to reboot.
 

MikeyFresh

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24/192 rolls with this generic adapter. I'd say give that one a go as many of these have had a silent hardware revision over time which might make them less than compatible.

Here's the 24/192 album in progress:

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I'm not sure you are going to find that exact Comfast adapter in easily recognizable trim these days. Another example of that was found in my plastic snap storage bin of All Things Raspberry Pi:

Edimax EW-7811Un v2

So that looks like the real deal, same exact model number as the one in my bin, except for one small problem... mine is white not black, and it is easily 3 times the size of the one pictured in the link. Further, the link description says this:
  • **UPDATED VERSION** Featuring new generation of N150 Wi-Fi 4 adapter powered by RTL8188EUS
Not good, quite possibly no longer compatible with Linux. I'd say drop the $12+ large on that generic jobbie that I bought not one month ago, it is seemingly working glitch-free on my end with Moode 7.2.1, and RPi 4B.

Bet it also works with my Oppo BDP-103 Blu-ray player.
 
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