OK, to date RoPieee has only been an endpoint, and until very recently there was only the version for RPi 3/4, however there is now a release for RPi 5 but I don't see any mention of it being a server. Volumio also has a Roon Bridge plugin and is another option for endpoint use, but also is not a Roon Core server.

If you need to replace your Roon Core server I think you are looking at getting a small or tiny form factor PC for that, or a NUC, or a finished product like the Small Green Computer Sonictransporter i9/7/5.



Absolutely, that's what I'm doing. The RPi 5 requires a 5 amp power supply, I'm using the official RPi 27 watt PSU and it sounds just fine that way. Another issue with using a HAT along with the NVMe is the lack of a suitable enclosure for it, I haven't seen one yet and even without the NVMe in the mix, there aren't many good enclosures yet for RPi 5 when using a HAT.
I am open to changing server software, does Jriver run on RPI 5's?
 
Oh yeah, you can just run it "nude" like that, though since it looks like you can't do a Roon server with it then maybe you don't want to use an NVMe at all, or do you also plan to boot from the NVMe?
Yes, it boots fine with it. That's how its configured now.
 

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I hate to say it but I think that is the case, Roon was sold to Harman and their idea of a server is the new forthcoming Nucleus One at $499, and Nucleus Titan at $3,999.

Unfortunately that Nucleus One is likely as cheap as Harman is going to want to allow any Roon Core server to be.
Ah, you are absolutely correct. I forgot about that, in fact I expect Roon won't exist much longer as a product, the purchase makes little sense to me.
 
Yes, it boots fine with it. That's how its configured now.

I had seen sometime back that a couple of these NVMe HATs were available. Funny you should bring this up here today, I just saw an announcement of the RPi official version becoming available today in the U.K. and is now listed as Coming Soon on the PiShop.us web site.
 
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I had seen sometime back that a couple of these NVMe HATs were available. Funny you should bring this up here today, I just saw an announcement of the RPi official version becoming available today in the U.K. and is now listed as Coming Soon on the PiShop.us web site.
Figures, and its the same price as the one I bought. Canakit has some now if you're interested here
 
I had seen sometime back that a couple of these NVMe HATs were available. Funny you should bring this up here today, I just saw an announcement of the RPi official version becoming available today in the U.K. and is now listed as Coming Soon on the PiShop.us web site

Hi Mike,
Here is some feedback on the RPI 5 M.2 hats I've tried from Amazon: they all worked fine except as noted below- the biggest issue is the size of M.2 they support, many only support the shorter form factors, e.g., 2230/2242; this comports with the official Raspberry Pi M.2 Hat+ Product Brief. Interesting note, the official hat is only sold with 512 MB and 1 TB drives and does not address compatibility with other brand or size drives, e.g., Samsung 970 2TB Evo, (see Product Brief and RPI M.2 Hat+ draft specification).

From my testing there are 2 limitations to the hat's that need to be kept in mind:
1. Size limits as noted, I am using one that supports 2280 length nvme drives because that's what I own. Too, I need a capacity of 4TB.
2. Not all brands/models of nmve are supported, e.g., some that do not work are WD drives, notably the SN850 is not supported, the SN850X is not listed, so it's not clear if it's not supported or the list is not current enough to include it. In my testing the WD Black SN850, XPG GAMMIX S50 and GAMMIX S11 Pro did not work. Drives that do work are Samsung - every model I've tested works fine with all of the board I purchased. A good list of drives that do/do not work + technical information for one board I purchased (Geekworm X1001) is here.

Bottom line: I would not buy the existing official hat because the form factor it accepts are too limited for this project. I need a 2280 form factor to get the ~4TB of space required to meet my objective, i.e., have PiCorePlayer and the LMS library running on the same RPI 5.
Note: this is RPI's first release of the M.2 Hat+, so hats that support larger form factors and capacity are likely planned - see "powered" and "stacked" hats referenced in the draft specification document.

UPDATE: According to the Geekworm X1001 documentation (link above & here), the RPI Pi OS only supports one lane of the PCIE bus; so, on a drive that requires 2.5A the OS would only support a maximum of 2.5 A /4 =.0625 A. The Geekworm board does not limit power, leaving it to the OS. I've have working drives that range from 1.9 to 2.7 A.
 
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Hi Mike,
Here is some feedback on the RPI 5 M.2 hats I've tried from Amazon: they all worked fine except as noted below- the biggest issue is the size of M.2 they support, many only support the shorter form factors, e.g., 2230/2242; this comports with the official Raspberry Pi M.2 Hat+ Product Brief. Interesting note, the official hat is only sold with 512 MB and 1 TB drives and does not address compatibility with other brand or size drives, e.g., Samsung 970 2TB Evo, (see Product Brief and RPI M.2 Hat+ draft specification).

From my testing there are 2 limitations to the hat's that need to be kept in mind:
1. Size limits as noted, I am using one that supports 2280 length nvme drives because that's what I own. Too, I need a capacity of 4TB.
2. Not all brands/models of nmve are supported, e.g., some that do not work are WD drives, notably the SN850 is not supported, the SN850X is not listed, so it's not clear if it's not supported or the list is not current enough to include it. In my testing the WD Black SN850, XPG GAMMIX S50 and GAMMIX S11 Pro did not work. Drives that do work are Samsung - every model I've tested works fine with all of the board I purchased. A good list of drives that do/do not work + technical information for one board I purchased (Geekworm X1001) is here.

Bottom line: I would not buy the existing official hat because the form factor it accepts are too limited for this project. I need a 2280 form factor to get the ~4TB of space required to meet my objective, i.e., have PiCorePlayer and the LMS library running on the same RPI 5.
Note: this is RPI's first release of the M.2 Hat+, so hats that support larger form factors and capacity may be planned.

UPDATE: X1001 - Geekworm Wiki

All great information and I did see that the Official version does not support the 2280 size drive, which gave me pause. That Geekworm version caught my eye on Amazon because they sell it alone, or bundled with an enclosure, PSU, and even the official RPi active cooler. I think thats the one I'll get, though I don't currently have a need for a 4TB drive, so in theory I could use something like this Inland, But is it compatible?

Weird that the WD drives are just flat out incompatible, I have both the Black and Blue that could be repurposed, but I'm also not averse to getting a new one such as the above.
 
All great information and I did see that the Official version does not support the 2280 size drive, which gave me pause. That Geekworm version caught my eye on Amazon because they sell it alone, or bundled with an enclosure, PSU, and even the official RPi active cooler. I think thats the one I'll get, though I don't currently have a need for a 4TB drive, so in theory I could use something like this Inland, But is it compatible?

Weird that the WD drives are just flat out incompatible, I have both the Black and Blue that could be repurposed, but I'm also not averse to getting a new one such as the above.
The inland tn446 is not compatible according to the Geekworm version -> Inland 446. I have a 4TB Crucial P3, that I will be trying out in a few minutes (moving data off it) - its a 2280, here and will let you know the results. I don't blame you for going with the RPI hat, since you know it is supported. Note that I did put 2280 drives on cards that were only for 2232/40 and they worked fine, likely not a long term or best-practice solution. The issue with the WD drives was related in part to the Phison controller, but one drive did get a firmware update that fixed the issue (quote from the Geekworm wiki:
 
All great information and I did see that the Official version does not support the 2280 size drive, which gave me pause. That Geekworm version caught my eye on Amazon because they sell it alone, or bundled with an enclosure, PSU, and even the official RPi active cooler. I think thats the one I'll get, though I don't currently have a need for a 4TB drive, so in theory I could use something like this Inland, But is it compatible?

Weird that the WD drives are just flat out incompatible, I have both the Black and Blue that could be repurposed, but I'm also not averse to getting a new one such as the above.
And your choice, the bundled version, I think is a good idea - reduces/eliminates integration issues.
 
And your choice, the bundled version, I think is a good idea - reduces/eliminates integration issues.

I have two existing WD Blue NVMe 2TB, one is the incompatible SN580 (mislabeled WD Green on that Geekworm wiki page), the other is the older and now compatible SN550, so I can use that one.

My existing WD Black is the incompatible SN770.
 
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I have two existing WD Blue NVMe 2TB, one is the incompatible SN580 (mislabeled WD Green on that Geekworm wiki page), the other is the older and now compatible SN550, so I can use that one.

My existing WD Black is the incompatible SN770.
Good news, the 4 tb Crucial P3 works perfectly at first blush, time will tell. This should be good for the project - now if I can just figure out the boot so it boots piCorePlayer instead of raspi OS.
 
Good news, the 4 tb Crucial P3 works perfectly at first blush, time will tell. This should be good for the project - now if I can just figure out the boot so it boots piCorePlayer instead of raspi OS.

Good deal! You will need the latest RPi 5 bootloader firmware to change the boot order:

Pi 5 bootloader.png
 
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