Unfortunately not, that Sony model has been tested and shown to be incompatible, and it is not SACD compatible at all.

In that model range, only the S6200/7200 are capable of playing (and thus ripping) an SACD. The rest of those models including the S1200 you mentioned can only read the Redbook CD layer of a hybrid disc, they will not play the SACD layer at all. The same is true of the S3200 and S5200, they are not SACD compatible, the best they can do is read the Redbook CD layer of a hybrid disc.

No problem man, we understand. Unzip and place the proper AutoScript folder to your USB flash drive.

Then just Run the rip.
I have read through the whole thread, purchased the gear Sony S590 & S5100), downloaded the files, and successfully completed rips and an autorip. This of course led to the purchase of more gear (Sony S790) including a Denon DBT-3313UDCI. Careful rereading of your post #2350 answered any remaining questions I had. I use a Mac Mini 2018 running OS X Catalina and Tuxera for NTFS access. Thank you and all others who have contributed to this topic.

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I have read through the whole thread, purchased the gear Sony S590 & S5100), downloaded the files, and successfully completed rips and an autorip. This of course led to the purchase of more gear (Sony S790) including a Denon DBT-3313UDCI. Careful rereading of your post #2350 answered any remaining questions I had. I use a Mac Mini 2018 running OS X Catalina and Tuxera for NTFS access. Thank you and all others who have contributed to this topic.

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Welcome to HFH, and congrats on getting up and running on 4 different machines, you've got some built-in redundancy there!

Thanks for the tip on Tuxera, I personally use the Paragon NTFS driver for macOS, however it's good to know there are alternatives available.
 
Welcome to HFH, and congrats on getting up and running on 4 different machines, you've got some built-in redundancy there!

Thanks for the tip on Tuxera, I personally use the Paragon NTFS driver for macOS, however it's good to know there are alternatives available.
USB media older PNY 2.0 1gb & 4gb and repurposed 1.8" Ipod drives of different flavors in external USB cases for autorip
 

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USB media older PNY 2.0 1gb & 4gb and repurposed 1.8" Ipod drives of different flavors in external USB cases for autorip
Love it, I have a few working 1.8" drives that were harvested out of iPods, but it never dawned on me they'd make a nice AutoRip drive, thats a brilliant repurposing.

Tuxera is a much better buy at $15 for a 3 machine license than the Paragon NTFS driver, which is $20 for a single license.
 
Goodmorning everyone. I'm Marco from Italy and I'm very happy I found this forum! I have not yet read the whole discussion but I would like to ask you: with a Sony bdp s390 can I extract a sacd or dvd-audio on a connected hard disk instead of a server on a home network? thank you very much!
 
Hi, I am back on with a Sony BDP-S7200 I sourced locally. Alas I am still having problems with ripping, but at least the machine is not rejecting the discs when I start the player with the Autoscript folder on my USB drive. Very slight progress for this tech-no (or no-tech). I get a bit confused with the overall scheme of things, and would really appreciate help with that. At the moment, I have the (pingable) 7200 with wireless connection to the network, a USB drive (with executable sacd_extract_6200), and SACDExtractGUI running on my iMac. But now I am, getting an error when I try to run SACDExtractGUI:

[RUNNING][/Applications/SACDExtractGUI/AutoScript/AutoScript, -i, 192.168.1.103:2002, -s, -2, -o, /Users/baward/Desktop]

/Applications/SACDExtractGUI/AutoScript/AutoScript: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `CLI_exec'
/Applications/SACDExtractGUI/AutoScript/AutoScript: line 2: `CLI(CLI_exec cp /mnt/sd*/AutoScript/sacd_extract_6200 /)'

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Goodmorning everyone. I'm Marco from Italy and I'm very happy I found this forum! I have not yet read the whole discussion but I would like to ask you: with a Sony bdp s390 can I extract a sacd or dvd-audio on a connected hard disk instead of a server on a home network? thank you very much!
Good morning and welcome to HFH Marco!

The answer is yes with regard to SACD, the S390 can write an ISO directly to the same USB flash drive that runs the AutoScript, that is the local ripping method aka AutoRip. You would use AutoRip A1neo.

With AutoRip you need to be sure the flash drive has adequate storage space to fit the ISO, so at least a 16GB flash drive is advisable.

NTFS formatting on the flash drive is best for AutoRip, because some SACDs can exceed the 4GB file size limitation imposed by FAT32 formatting.

The answer is no with regard to DVD-Audio discs, these Blu-ray players and this entire method of ripping is dedicated to the SACD format, though there are long standing tools such as DVD-Audio Extractor that will rip DVD-Audio using a computer DVD drive, I've used that program for about 12 years now.
 

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Hi, I am back on with a Sony BDP-S7200 I sourced locally. Alas I am still having problems with ripping, but at least the machine is not rejecting the discs when I start the player with the Autoscript folder on my USB drive. Very slight progress for this tech-no (or no-tech). I get a bit confused with the overall scheme of things, and would really appreciate help with that. At the moment, I have the (pingable) 7200 with wireless connection to the network, a USB drive (with executable sacd_extract_6200), and SACDExtractGUI running on my iMac. But now I am, getting an error when I try to run SACDExtractGUI:

[RUNNING][/Applications/SACDExtractGUI/AutoScript/AutoScript, -i, 192.168.1.103:2002, -s, -2, -o, /Users/baward/Desktop]

/Applications/SACDExtractGUI/AutoScript/AutoScript: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `CLI_exec'
/Applications/SACDExtractGUI/AutoScript/AutoScript: line 2: `CLI(CLI_exec cp /mnt/sd*/AutoScript/sacd_extract_6200 /)'

Thanks.
Well congrats on the fast acquisition of the S7200, thats a very nice unit.

First things first, with the Sony machines you have to go into the Settings menu and enable the Quick Start mode, please confirm that has been done.

Then let's clear the decks by doing a power cycle (with flash drive removed), and after replacing the AC cord, watch the front panel LED for the initial boot sequence. If you had enabled the aforementioned Quick Start mode, that boot sequence will end with the machine in an OFF (sleeping) state, the LED display has now gone dark.

With the S6200/7200, you insert the flash drive into an OFF (sleeping) machine, it will awaken and auto-open it's disc tray, place an SACD into the tray and allow it auto-close, then watch the LED display flash OFF. When the display goes dark, Run the rip.
 
Well congrats on the fast acquisition of the S7200, thats a very nice unit.

First things first, with the Sony machines you have to go into the Settings menu and enable the Quick Start mode, please confirm that has been done.

Then let's clear the decks by doing a power cycle (with flash drive removed), and after replacing the AC cord, watch the front panel LED for the initial boot sequence. If you had enabled the aforementioned Quick Start mode, that boot sequence will end with the machine in an OFF (sleeping) state, the LED display has now gone dark.

With the S6200/7200, you insert the flash drive into an OFF (sleeping) machine, it will awaken and auto-open it's disc tray, place an SACD into the tray and allow it auto-close, then watch the LED display flash OFF. When the display goes dark, Run the rip.

Thanks Mikey. Quick Start Mode is ON.

I have power cycled the machine and inserted my USB drive when machine was in sleep, and inserted an SACD. As you said, the display went (and remains) dark. Putting my ear to the top of the Sony, I can hear drive activity!! So I assume its all working. [in fact, it's just spat my SACD out, so I am going to see whats on the USB.]

As this is my first attempt, I am going to do another SACD after this one, with a USB drive with an activity light on it. I can understand why it is recommended.
 

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Thanks Mikey. Quick Start Mode is ON.

I have power cycled the machine and inserted my USB drive when machine was in sleep, and inserted an SACD. As you said, the display went (and remains) dark. Putting my ear to the top of the Sony, I can hear drive activity!! So I assume its all working. [in fact, it's just spat my SACD out, so I am going to see whats on the USB.]

As this is my first attempt, I am going to do another SACD after this one, with a USB drive with an activity light on it. I can understand why it is recommended.
OK and when I said "Run the rip" in my previous post, I had assumed you were once again trying the network server method using SACDExtractGUI.

What you seem to be describing in looking for what is now on the USB flash drive is AutoRip, in the case of the S7200, that would be AutoRip A3 to be precise.

If so, you should now have an ISO disc copy on your flash drive. To extract DSF tracks from it, use SACDExtractGUI in File mode.

You can't however use the AutoRip version that you had previously downloaded for use with the Oppo machine, that one won't work with the S7200, only AutoRip A3 will.

The same is true for the network server AutoScript version you were trying to use with the Oppo player and SACDExtractGUI, that too is incompatible with the S7200, you need the version listed on Page 2 of this thread as specifically compatible with S6200/7200 only.
 

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Yours is about the only sane thread on the Internet about it. 👍 I remember when I first did this quite a few years ago with my Oppo BDP-105. (2016-ish?) It took a while to make sense of everything but I got it sorted quickly enough. I think it's great that there are many more players now that can rip the discs.
For sure, and it's worth noting that this thread grew to the size that it is in part due to the testing and development required to unlock the compatibility with so many additional player models. When we started here nearly 3 years ago there were only the Oppo and Pioneer brands, each with just two known compatible models, and the Sony discovery had just been made, I believe only the S390 and 590 had been confirmed working to that point if memory serves.

So while we were fairly sure for example that other brands whose players were based on the Oppo platform (Cambridge, Arcam, Primare, Electrocompaniet, MSB) were likely also compatible, no one knew for sure until they were actually tested.

But the big break through of course was the discovery on the Computer Audiophile forum that some inexpensive Sony brand players could use the Pioneer version of the AutoScript, and rip SACD by using the little trick of putting them to sleep.

Then still more models and brands, including both ARMv6 and also ARMv7-based units were discovered. Add to that @Nexus3's fantastic AutoRip method to the existing network server method, and yeah, the thread is now long, though not remotely the mess that exists on this topic on certain other forums.

I'm always amazed when someone takes a cursory glance at the thread and determines it is much too large for them to digest, and just give me the cheat sheet please. They seem to be completely and conveniently ignoring or disregarding the fact that there is not and cannot be just one easy cheat sheet, not with 2 different ripping methods (local and network), 3 operating systems (Windows, Mac, and Linux), and currently 38 different player models across 11 brands. Thats a lot of permutations.

So while I do think this thread is still a manageable size, and the HFH site upgrade last year that enhanced the Search capability when used along with the Bookmark function should make things easy enough to navigate, others disagree and find the whole thing daunting because they are too used to "push button receive bacon". Those folks I can't really help, or maybe I should say I don't want to.

But for anyone to make the claim that the information as presented here is "fragmented", that is too easily and conveniently overlooking the fact that it was generated over now 3 years time, and represents not just a quick "how to" guide circa May 2018, but an evolution of nearly constant development, testing, and upgrade to the various tools needed to unlock all of those additional player brands and models.

Of that we are very proud, as well as counting participating members from 39 different countries, truly an international effort aiding music lovers in ripping their treasured SACD collections.
 
Good morning and welcome to HFH Marco!

The answer is yes with regard to SACD, the S390 can write an ISO directly to the same USB flash drive that runs the AutoScript, that is the local ripping method aka AutoRip. You would use AutoRip A1neo.

With AutoRip you need to be sure the flash drive has adequate storage space to fit the ISO, so at least a 16GB flash drive is advisable.

NTFS formatting on the flash drive is best for AutoRip, because some SACDs can exceed the 4GB file size limitation imposed by FAT32 formatting.

The answer is no with regard to DVD-Audio discs, these Blu-ray players and this entire method of ripping is dedicated to the SACD format, though there are long standing tools such as DVD-Audio Extractor that will rip DVD-Audio using a computer DVD drive, I've used that program for about 12 years now.
Thanks a lot for the info!!! I'll try soon.......👍
 
OK and when I said "Run the rip" in my previous post, I had assumed you were once again trying the network server method using SACDExtractGUI.

What you seem to be describing in looking for what is now on the USB flash drive is AutoRip, in the case of the S7200, that would be AutoRip A3 to be precise.

If so, you should now have an ISO disc copy on your flash drive. To extract DSF tracks from it, use SACDExtractGUI in File mode.

You can't however use the AutoRip version that you had previously downloaded for use with the Oppo machine, that one won't work with the S7200, only AutoRip A3 will.

The same is true for the network server AutoScript version you were trying to use with the Oppo player and SACDExtractGUI, that too is incompatible with the S7200, you need the version listed on Page 2 of this thread as specifically compatible with S6200/7200 only.

Marvellous. Yes, I do indeed have a .ISO disc copy of the SACD. I will start investigating the SACDExtractGUI file method, as I realise I can't directly open the .ISO.

I am still getting a "[FAILURE] Port 2002 of 192.168.1.100 is inaccessible." error when I try and test the connection to the BDP-S7200, even though I can ping it successfully. I will try a search for this issue.
 
I for one am very grateful for the thread. It took me two attempts to set up the process. I tried it first using a Sony Blu-ray player (which I bought specially for the purpose) on which the process did not work. I gave up for a while and then found that my Marantz UD7007, i.e. which I already had, was listed as being able to do the ripping, using (1) the right file in a cleanly reformatted USB flash drive plugged into the USB A port on the Marantz and (2) the Java extraction applet. I got the process to work just a couple of weeks ago.

When you know how, it is quite simple to do it using a network cable going from the Marantz to the router to which the computer on which the Java extraction applet is installed is connected. That computer has to have Java installed on it. You also have to get the IP address for the Marantz, which you get by plugging in a screen via the HDMI port of the Marantz (getting the IP address by seeing what is said on the settings menu for the Marantz).

It all makes sense when you install the software and start up the applet: leaving the number 2002 in the "server" line . You need to have a destination on the computer's hard drive for the extracted DSF files. Then press "run". I have done a screenshot using the Windows snip tool and enclose it. (Can's Future Days is not my favourite recording, it just happens to be one I have just extracted the DSF file from.)

If that confuses a newcomer, then I apologise.

I will now make a donation. DSF files extracted from SACDs played via my very well-fettled computer audio transport with a Pachanko SE power supply into a PS Audio Bitstream DAC sound very good indeed, in some cases better than the same recording on a good vinyl pressing played via my Nottingham Analogue ACE Spacedeck with heavy kit and Wave Mechanic, plus an Origin Live Illustrious Mark 2 arm into an Origin Live phono stage.

Only because of this forum have I been able to extract my SACD DSD recordings.

Of course, I am keeping the SACDs to ensure that I am not breaching copyright laws, but in fact the SACDs are also investments.
 

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Ooh, something new; I went back to the start of my adventure and reinstalled items, then ran an input test in SACDExtractGUI, and got this:

SACDExtractGUI v0.1-7-g135cbd5d

Use of this program that results in any form of copyright infringement is strictly prohibited.

[RUNNING][/Applications/SACDExtractGUI/sacd_extract-0/sacd_extract, -v]


sacd_extract client 0.3.9.3-99-gfe1a337f9fc609d4e0ae84b63196c3fc4cf55a72

Enhanced by euflo ....starting!

Current (working) directory (for the app and 'sacd_extract.cfg' file): /Applications/SACDExtractGUI
git repository: "EuFlo/sacd-ripper"
Configuration settings:
Artist will be added in folder name (artist=0) no
Performer will be added in filename of track (performer=0) no
Padding-less (nopad=0) no
Pauses included (pauses=0) no
Concatenate (concatenate=0) no
ID3tag (id3tag = 4)

Program terminates!


[DONE]

Does this look like it's working as it should?
 
I for one am very grateful for the thread. It took me two attempts to set up the process. I tried it first using a Sony Blu-ray player (which I bought specially for the purpose) on which the process did not work. I gave up for a while and then found that my Marantz UD7007, i.e. which I already had, was listed as being able to do the ripping, using (1) the right file in a cleanly reformatted USB flash drive plugged into the USB A port on the Marantz and (2) the Java extraction applet. I got the process to work just a couple of weeks ago.
Great stuff, thanks Oliver. it's postings like yours which share information which make this resource so valuable!
 

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Marvellous. Yes, I do indeed have a .ISO disc copy of the SACD. I will start investigating the SACDExtractGUI file method, as I realise I can't directly open the .ISO.
Outstanding!

The extraction to DSF from that ISO is easy, just insert the flash drive into your computer. Then click the radio button in the GUI's Input field setting for File, and use the Browse button in that same field to find and select your ISO.

Then move down to make your extraction settings, i.e. stereo only, stereo + multichannel etc... and designate where you like the DSF track files to be written in the Output directory field. You can even choose separate locations for the stereo and multichannel.

Then hit Run and the extraction will begin.
 

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I am still getting a "[FAILURE] Port 2002 of 192.168.1.100 is inaccessible." error when I try and test the connection to the BDP-S7200, even though I can ping it successfully. I will try a search for this issue.
When you switch methods and use a different version of the Autoscript (i.e. move form AutoRip A3 back to the network server method), you must first power cycle the unit to clear the decks. You can run one version of the script, then grab the other thumb drive and insert it without first power cycling. Always start with a clean slate when switching between the local and network method scripts.

The process is the same, you being by inserting that network server script version into an already sleeping (OFF) S7200. It awakens and the disc tray both auto-opens and auto-closes, and the machine also auto-enters sleep mode, just watch the LED display flash OFF, when it goes dark, Run the rip in the GUI with the Server radio button setting. Make damn sure you actually have a network connection and the correct IP address.
 

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I for one am very grateful for the thread. It took me two attempts to set up the process. I tried it first using a Sony Blu-ray player (which I bought specially for the purpose) on which the process did not work. I gave up for a while and then found that my Marantz UD7007, i.e. which I already had, was listed as being able to do the ripping, using (1) the right file in a cleanly reformatted USB flash drive plugged into the USB A port on the Marantz and (2) the Java extraction applet. I got the process to work just a couple of weeks ago.
Outstanding, but why did you not post any question about the Sony unit?

That too will work, assuming it is a model on the compatibility list, and is in good working order, there is no reason not to get the Sony up and running. Most people with two compatible machines like to place the ripping burden on the cheaper of the two. I'd hazard a guess thats the Sony in your case, as the Marantz is a really nice machine, you might wish to place the heavy lifting of any ripping duty on your Sony.
 
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