Outstanding!

The extraction to DSF from that ISO is easy, just insert the flash drive into your computer. Then click the radio button in the GUI's Input field setting for File, and use the Browse button in that same field to find and select your ISO.

Then move down to make your extraction settings, i.e. stereo only, stereo + multichannel etc... and designate where you like the DSF track files to be written in the Output directory field. You can even choose separate locations for the stereo and multichannel.

Then hit Run and the extraction will begin.
More outstanding advice, thank you Mikey. I now have my first DSF files! Once new users follow the instructions and have the appropriate equipment, it's all beautifully easy.

As I am totally new to the world of DSF, and as a Plex user for my music playback (mainly), I don't really know how to proceed. I will search the site, but is that sort of thing dealt with on Hi-fi Haven, or should I look elsewhere?
 

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More outstanding advice, thank you Mikey. I now have my first DSF files! Once new users follow the instructions and have the appropriate equipment, it's all beautifully easy.

As I am totally new to the world of DSF, and as a Plex user for my music playback (mainly), I don't really know how to proceed. I will search the site, but is that sort of thing dealt with on Hi-fi Haven, or should I look elsewhere?
You can certainly ask in the DSD playback options thread.

The short answer is that Plex is going to transcode everything to hi-res PCM if I'm not mistaken, but I'm not a multichannel user at all and so not really the right guy to comment there. But that thread does have some previous discussion on that matter, and feel free to post anything additional there as we use that thread to address playback issues and leave this one specifically focused on the ripping task itself.
 
Thanks Mikey. That page makes for some interesting reading, even though on first reading a lot of it goes over my head. At this rate, I may not worry about multitrack playback from networked hard disc too much, and just enjoy the stereo versions of my dozen or so discs.
 
Looking for some help.
Can't figure out why I'm getting 1-min of silence at the beginning of a track ripped from an SACD. When playing the SACD in a SAD player the 1-min of silence at the beginning of the track is not experienced. Could this be caused or prevented by changing the setting of SACDExtractGUI?

Would ripping with "Padding-less DSF" unchecked help?

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Looking for some help.
Can't figure out why I'm getting 1-min of silence at the beginning of a track ripped from an SACD. When playing the SACD in a SAD player the 1-min of silence at the beginning of the track is not experienced. Could this be caused or prevented by changing the setting of SACDExtractGUI?

Would ripping with "Padding-less DSF" unchecked help?

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Hmmm, that's a new one, I've not experienced that before but I can't see how the Padding-less DSF setting would effect that in any way, though it doesn't hurt to give it a test try.

Other options would be to use the DSF processing in conjunction with the Select tracks setting and try ripping just that one track to DSF, see if that still produces the same 1 minute of silence or not.

Finally, I can see that you are using an old version of sacd_extract, an updated version of the executable will likely produce a different result.

You can get the latest version of sacd_extract for Mac at Euflo's GitHub repository (scroll to the very bottom to reveal the Assets) and you don't even necessarily have to delete the one you have, just point the GUI at the new one's location in your downloads folder by specifying that path in the Program field using the Browse button.

You'll also need to make it executable using the Terminal command below:

Code:
chmod +x

Followed by a single space, then drag/drop the sacd_extract file onto the Terminal window and press Enter.
 
Hmmm, that's a new one, I've not experienced that before but I can't see how the Padding-less DSF setting would effect that in any way, though it doesn't hurt to give it a test try.

Other options would be to use the DSF processing in conjunction with the Select tracks setting and try ripping just that one track to DSF, see if that still produces the same 1 minute of silence or not.

Finally, I can see that you are using an old version of sacd_extract, an updated version of the executable will likely produce a different result.

You can get the latest version of sacd_extract for Mac at Euflo's GitHub repository (scroll to the very bottom to reveal the Assets) and you don't even necessarily have to delete the one you have, just point the GUI at the new one's location in your downloads folder by specifying that path in the Program field using the Browse button.

You'll also need to make it executable using the Terminal command below:

Code:
chmod +x

Followed by a single space, then drag/drop the sacd_extract file onto the Terminal window and press Enter.
@MikeyFresh An updated version solved the problem. I should have thought of that.
 
I also noticed after updating the sacd_extract that it only creates a folder with the album title and no longer includes the artist - album title as the folder name. It had been a few years ago I set up to rip and can't recall if this is user-configurable.
 

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I also noticed after updating the sacd_extract that it only creates a folder with the album title and no longer includes the artist - album title as the folder name. It had been a few years ago I set up to rip and can't recall if this is user-configurable.
I believe you can use the .cfg file for that. Change it to Artist=1.

The Readme document explains how to use that .cfg file, which was new last summer if memory serves. It's a text file, use TextEdit to open it.
 
Very good, glad it's solved, although I'm left to wonder what the heck the problem was in the first place. I'd not heard of that sort of thing happening before.
@MikeyFresh
I've been trying to figure this out as well. The only thing I can associate with the issue is the Index time for track 1 in the cue file. The time of the silence was exactly 1 min 02 seconds.

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The image is from the older version of sacd_extrect. I looked at the cue file from the new version of sacd_extract and its the same, but not included in the track 1 dsf file.
 

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I've been trying to figure this out as well. The only thing I can associate with the issue is the Index time for track 1 in the cue file. The time of the silence was exactly 1 min 02 seconds.

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The image is from the older version of sacd_extrect. I looked at the cue file from the new version of sacd_extract and its the same, but not included in the track 1 dsf file.
Thats interesting and looks like it might be bad disc authoring that EuFlo's enhanced version is somehow able to correct for.
 
Can't figure out why I'm getting 1-min of silence at the beginning of a track ripped from an SACD. When playing the SACD in a SAD player the 1-min of silence at the beginning of the track is not experienced.

I've been trying to figure this out as well. The only thing I can associate with the issue is the Index time for track 1 in the cue file. The time of the silence was exactly 1 min 02 seconds.
There is a simple explanation: all is about pauses.
The old sacd_extract rip entire raw track data.
The new sacd_extract take into account the start/end time of each track (as a real SACD player does). Therefore the pauses are eliminated (this is default setting in cfg file, pauses=0).
Anyway, if someone want to rip entire raw tracks there is an option in cfg file to set: pauses=1.
 
There is a simple explanation: all is about pauses.
The old sacd_extract rip entire raw track data.
The new sacd_extract take into account the start/end time of each track (as a real SACD player does). Therefore the pauses are eliminated (this is default setting in cfg file, pauses=0).
Anyway, if someone want to rip entire raw tracks there is an option in cfg file to set: pauses=1.
Keep in mind that cue file is created for use in tandem with DFF file.

Generating cue file has nothing to do with DSF files. It is optional and has informative purpose only.
@EugenF
Thank you for sharing your insight on the issue I experienced. Learned something and prepared for the next time.
 
Hi, I just joined HiFiHaven because of this thread, and want to thank MikeyFresh and all the other contributors to this thread about the excellent discussion on how to rip SACDs using Sony BluRay players. I just setup a Sony UHP-H1 with the correct AutoScript folder contents on the USB drive, and was able to make my first ISO/DSF rip on the first try.

That being said, I am running into a problem with the SACD tray not opening after I finish a rip. If I open the tray, the player seems to revert to normal operation and a new SACD is not readable by SACD_Extract. The only way I seem to be able to rip another SACD is to powercycle the player and re-initialize using the USB stick. I recall someone else with a UHP-H1 had the same issue, but cannot find how (or if) it was resolved.

Again, thanks.

David
 

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Hi, I just joined HiFiHaven because of this thread, and want to thank MikeyFresh and all the other contributors to this thread about the excellent discussion on how to rip SACDs using Sony BluRay players. I just setup a Sony UHP-H1 with the correct AutoScript folder contents on the USB drive, and was able to make my first ISO/DSF rip on the first try.

That being said, I am running into a problem with the SACD tray not opening after I finish a rip. If I open the tray, the player seems to revert to normal operation and a new SACD is not readable by SACD_Extract. The only way I seem to be able to rip another SACD is to powercycle the player and re-initialize using the USB stick. I recall someone else with a UHP-H1 had the same issue, but cannot find how (or if) it was resolved.

Again, thanks.

David
Welcome to HFH and I'm glad you got the process going.

Unfortunately the UHP-H1 is one of the few Sony models I don't own, so I'm not able to test it or report back on specific behaviors. I don't know if the tray is supposed to auto-open with that model or not.

I presume that you are not using an EU model machine that lacks the Quick Start mode?

If so, I think all you need do is open the disc tray at the end of a rip, remove the SACD you just ripped, close the tray, and turn the machine OFF. Then reinsert the flash drive with the machine in an OFF state and you should be able to repeat the original process. Don't be in a hurry, when you turn the unit OFF, wait a few seconds to let that occur before reinserting the flash drive.

Again, I've not used the UHP-H1 myself, but I think the above should work, please let us know and if it does not work, we might be able to come up with an alternative script that works better with that machine, but you will be the tester there.
 
@MikeyFresh Yes, I have a non EU model with a Quick Start mode. I will give the process you describe a try to see if it works. It makes sense to me. I am happy to be the tester should it come to that, I have a pretty good stack of SACDs to run through, so lots of opportunities to try out things.

David
 
New to here. I would like to thank Mikey Fresh as well as all of the other contributors for this excellent place. Thought I’d share my experience to hopefully help others with some troubleshooting tips that got me going.
I recently bought a Acura ‘21 TLX that plays 5.1 by USB. Having successfully ripped my DTS-CDs, DualDiscs, DVD-A/Vs and Blu-rays to FLAC using DVD Extractor/Foobar, & MakeMKV/MusicMedia Helper, I took the plunge, found a Sony BDP-BX59 on eBay and with your help I’m now ripping SACDs!
Here are a few tips that got me going -

1)Move AutoScript Zip folder to the erased clean Fat32 formatted flash drive you are going to use for AutoScript - mine is an old 512MB Cruzer. Unzip it in that drive. Create a AutoScript folder and place the AutoScript, AutoScript.TSS & sacd_extract_160 you unzipped in that folder, nothing else on the drive(a buda file magically appears later - leave it be).
2)Keep that drive handy. If you screw up and press close instead of power off to insert your next disc, you will need to remove that disc, and power off and restart the proper sequence (power on, insert flash drive (door opens), disc in tray, power down, remove flash drive, hit run on software).
3)The original sacd_gui file unzipped didn’t work and I had to replace with an updated file dated 2/28/21. The one that worked for me had 99 in the file name.
4)When in doubt, pull the plug out. For some reason, nothing worked but I unplugged my Sony, let it chill and then everything magically worked.

Now for some help -
I’m ripping to dsf files. When I convert to FLAC with Foobar I have to go 48/24 per my car’s USB requirement. When I start the conversion, I get a Transcode Warning - “Foobar2000 does not support DSD pass through, the conversion will not be lossless. Are you sure?” I select Yes. The conversions begin. Each file converted also produces a DSD2PCM window - No installed FIR, continue with the default (no action needs to be taken, I just close each window).
The files play fine but I was wondering if I’ve done something wrong or if there is something that can be done to keep these from popping up with each conversion.
Thank you one and all!
 
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