Thanks for the heads up on page 33 on using the A3 script in conjunction with the Sony BDP-S7200. There was more time to load SACD than I thought and I was wondering if there was any activity during the process but fortunately remained patient when the disc ejected. ISO had been written ready for dsf conversion.

Very neat without a need for a network connection
 
AutoRip A3, A4 & A5 all do their job automatically, meaning you only have to insert the disc within 10 seconds - nothing more (as just seen on Mike's splendid video).

[Updated: Auto Script A4 is not compatible with the Sony S5100 - see Mikey's post below and the link to correct AutoScript instructions]

Some feedback on Auto Script: I successfully tested script A4 on 2 players - a Sony S5100 and a Pioneer BDP-80FD with the scripts dated 3/16/19. The Pioneer works as described in the accompanying text file (dated 4/14) .

However, the Sony S5100 needed to be put into sleep mode. Also, while it was ripping the display was blinking "OFF" on and off. Perhaps that needs to be added to the instructions - or I may have an odd S5100.

These were the default ISO rips - I plan to do .DSF USB rips but don't have the arguments to feed sacd_extract_160, yet.
I hope to eliminate the audible noise in .DSFs when listening on my "over-resolving" Hugo 2.
 
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However, the Sony S5100 needed to be put into sleep mode. Also, while it was ripping the display was blinking "OFF" on and off. Perhaps that needs to be added to the instructions - or I may have an odd S5100.

Hmm, I'm surprised A4 worked at all on the S5100, it isn't supposed to be compatible with that unit.

We haven't done the best job of formally announcing AutoRip here in this forum, it was kind of left in pre-release status in April before the holiday.

Suffice it to say in Nexus3's post there is a link to a document that shows which scripts are compatible with which brand/model Blu-ray player, I'll re-post that here for anyone interested.

So the S5100 is supposed to use AutoRip A1, and with that no sleep method. Instead it involves use of the on-screen display menu and a toggle of the stereo/multichannel setting. Note that does nothing at all to change any rip parameters, all it does is unmount the SACD briefly so that the script can gain root access/control.
 
Hmm, I'm surprised A4 worked at all on the S5100, it isn't supposed to be compatible with that unit.

We haven't done the best job of formally announcing AutoRip here in this forum, it was kind of left in pre-release status in April before the holiday.

Suffice it to say in Nexus3's post there is a link to a document that shows which scripts are compatible with which brand/model Blu-ray player, I'll re-post that here for anyone interested.

So the S5100 is supposed to use AutoRip A1, and with that no sleep method. Instead it involves use of the on-screen display menu and a toggle of the stereo/multichannel setting. Note that does nothing at all to change any rip parameters, all it does is unmount the SACD briefly so that the script can gain root access/control.

I guess I am your perfect beta tester then.. try the unexpected...., Seriously, I just saw that it used "sacd_extract_160" binary so I assumed it would work, so I tried it. I was interested in the speed difference twixt ethernet and USB.

And thanks for the repost. Sorry I missed that before.
 
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Hmm, I'm surprised A4 worked at all on the S5100, it isn't supposed to be compatible with that unit.

We haven't done the best job of formally announcing AutoRip here in this forum, it was kind of left in pre-release status in April before the holiday.

Suffice it to say in Nexus3's post there is a link to a document that shows which scripts are compatible with which brand/model Blu-ray player, I'll re-post that here for anyone interested.

So the S5100 is supposed to use AutoRip A1, and with that no sleep method. Instead it involves use of the on-screen display menu and a toggle of the stereo/multichannel setting. Note that does nothing at all to change any rip parameters, all it does is unmount the SACD briefly so that the script can gain root access/control.
Hi Mikey,
I am 63 & thoroughly foxed by all the different posts regarding Sony BD machines.
Imagine I am sitting at my desk with a S7200 machine, a USB drive & an SACD. What is the exact sequence I need to go through to get the SACD ISO onto the USB drive. I am sure that this info is here in the posts in a piecemeal way, but I haven't been able to pull all the elements together seccessfully. I have searched but being elderly & confused doesn't help. Sorry to be a nuisance.
 
Hi Mikey,
I am 63 & thoroughly foxed by all the different posts regarding Sony BD machines.
Imagine I am sitting at my desk with a S7200 machine, a USB drive & an SACD. What is the exact sequence I need to go through to get the SACD ISO onto the USB drive. I am sure that this info is here in the posts in a piecemeal way, but I haven't been able to pull all the elements together seccessfully. I have searched but being elderly & confused doesn't help. Sorry to be a nuisance.

No nuisance at all, don't worry about it.

The thing you are trying to do, i.e. rip an ISO directly to the flash drive, is not well documented here. In fact it's somewhat brand new being in the realm of what is called AutoRip. AutoRip was only finalized right around Easter. So don't sweat it, you are going for the cutting edge, and we'll do it.

An introductory question is what kind of computer do you have, Windows or Mac?

Then in terms of the actual ripping task, is your USB flash drive brand spankin' new/straight out of the package, or is this something that's been kicking around a while? If it is brand new, we can proceed with relative certainty it is in the correct format. If not, we'll need to confirm that it is.

Last upfront question, are you trying to rip SACDs that are stereo only discs such as most Mobile Fidelity, Analogue Productions, and/or various Japanese imports, OR are you trying to rip SACDs with both stereo and multichannel content? Or do you have both some stereo only, and stereo/multichannel SACDs?
 
No nuisance at all, don't worry about it.

The thing you are trying to do, i.e. rip an ISO directly to the flash drive, is not well documented here. In fact it's somewhat brand new being in the realm of what is called AutoRip. AutoRip was only finalized right around Easter. So don't sweat it, you are going for the cutting edge, and we'll do it.

An introductory question is what kind of computer do you have, Windows or Mac?

Then in terms of the actual ripping task, is your USB flash drive brand spankin' new/straight out of the package, or is this something that's been kicking around a while? If it is brand new, we can proceed with relative certainty it is in the correct format. If not, we'll need to confirm that it is.

Last upfront question, are you trying to rip SACDs that are stereo only discs such as most Mobile Fidelity, Analogue Productions, and/or various Japanese imports, OR are you trying to rip SACDs with both stereo and multichannel content? Or do you have both some stereo only, and stereo/multichannel SACDs?
Hi, I have a windows 10 pro 64bit computer. I am trying to rip the stereo component of stereo and multichannel discs. As far as I know I have all stereo/multichannel discs.
 
Greetings all from St. Louis,
I was very pleased to find this thread and have read the two ends but not the middle yet which I will gradually grunt through.

I have a BX 59 on the way expected tomorrow and already have a network crossover cable ready for it. Now where did I put those USB sticks.

Happy to be here. 52 years an audio nut.
 
Hi, I have a windows 10 pro 64bit computer. I am trying to rip the stereo component of stereo and multichannel discs. As far as I know I have all stereo/multichannel discs.

OK I'd suggest you don't then want to use the newer AutoRip method for stereo only. Using AutoRip directly to the flash drive would write a full archival ISO backup of the entire disc, multichannel and all. Not only does that take far more time, it will also eat up much more storage space.

If you only really need the stereo tracks then I suggest using the original Sony server method instead. That will write the tracks to the computer over your network, instead of AutoRip writing the ISO to the flash drive.

Or, if you really don't mind having a full archival backup of the entire disc, multichannel and all, then you can use AutoRip A3 with an S7200, but you will still need to extract the stereo DSF tracks from the resulting ISO file in a separate step.

Neither way is hard, it comes down to whether or not you want to spend storage space keeping a full archival backup of the entire disc, or just skip straight to direct extraction of the stereo DSF tracks.
 
Greetings all from St. Louis,
I was very pleased to find this thread and have read the two ends but not the middle yet which I will gradually grunt through.

I have a BX 59 on the way expected tomorrow and already have a network crossover cable ready for it. Now where did I put those USB sticks.

Happy to be here. 52 years an audio nut.

Welcome aboard!

While I have only ever used the crossover cable direct connection method with the Raspberry Pi, others here have used it with a Windows computer with success. It shouldn't pose an issue, so long as your computer actually issues the BX59 an IP address.

To do a little prep work ahead of receiving the BX59, download the SACDExtractGUI package for Windows which is inked to in the very first post of the thread.

Then prepare a USB flash drive with the Pioneer-Sony version of the AutoScript linked to on Page 2 of this thread.
 
Welcome aboard!

While I have only ever used the crossover cable direct connection method with the Raspberry Pi, others here have used it with a regular computer with success. It shouldn't pose an issue, so long as your computer actually issues the BX59 an IP address.
The computer is an i7 with Windows Seven on it. If it doesn't assign an IP address I am sure there will be a way to make it do so.
 
The computer is an i7 with Windows Seven on it. If it doesn't assign an IP address I am sure there will be a way to make it do so.

I hope so, this seems to vary based on a number of variables. If it proves to be a headache, is there any reason why you can't connect over the network, either ethernet or WiFi through a router?
 
Thanks for the info, I think I would prefer the full archival backup route. So could you give me a step by step walkthrough please. I can always transfer ISOs to a spare hard drive when the flash drive is full.
 
Right now the network is really only WiFi although I have discovered an ethernet cable that I will use to link the ends of my rather longish house. The stereo room is on the opposite end from the internet entrance and I think the previous owners ran that cable because they also used the great room for video/home theater. But no there is no reason to not use the network other than I would need an extra set up step.
 
Thanks for the info, I think I would prefer the full archival backup route. So could you give me a step by step walkthrough please. I can always transfer ISOs to a spare hard drive when the flash drive is full.

Sure, for that on an S7200 you will use a script on the flash drive called AutoRip A3.

Creating the ISO with AutoRip A3 cannot be any easier, first setup the flash drive with the correct script by downloading and writing it to a flash drive that has been formatted either FAT32 or NTFS with Master Boot Record as the partition scheme.

You can also use a portable HDD instead of a thumb drive, and there you likely have far greater available storage space. That too will need to be in either FAT32, or NTFS format with MBR. Note that only portable HDDs are likely to work (those that are USB bus powered). Other self-powered USB external drives likely won't work, and that's a deep discussion we'll skip.

A few words about drive formatting... FAT32 format has the limitation of a maximum folder size of 4GB. This means some SACDs would actually be split into 2 different ISOs, because an SACD can be 4.7GB in size (SACDs are actually pressed on dual layer DVD blanks).

So for this AutoRip method it is actually advantageous to use a drive formatted NTFS, because it has no 4GB folder size limit, and thus each album will be written to one single ISO. Thumb drives typically ship from the factory with FAT32 formatting, so to get ISOs all in one folder per album, you'd want to reformat the thumb drive NTFS. Or, generally speaking most any portable HDD will already be in NTFS format, unless it has already been used with a Mac or Linux machine and not Windows.

So if all of that spins your head, don't let it. This is just the setup required for the flash or portable HDD.

Once that's been done AutoRip amounts to putting that flash drive into the S7200, watching the disc tray open automatically, placing a disc in the tray, and watching it automatically close again. Seconds later the rip will commence.

Do you know how to format a flash thumb drive drive, or for that matter do you potentially have a portable HDD that is available for this use?
 
Yes I can format a flash drive ok. I do have some quite large thumb drives (128GB). I just need to know the right way to prepare the Blu Ray player to accept the thumb drive as I understand Autorip A3 works differently to other scripts.
 
OK great, I'd prepare the flash drive as NTFS format, with MBR, just one single partition.

The A3 script will actually use the same player settings as the other Sony methods, i.e. it needs to be setup for sleep mode.

Here are the complete settings you will use via the Sony's onscreen display menus:

1. Setup -> Audio Settings -> DSD Output Mode (Off)

2. Setup -> BD/DVD Viewing Settings -> BD Internet Connection (Do not allow)

3. Setup -> Music Settings -> Super Audio CD Playback Layer (SACD)

4. Setup -> System Settings -> Quick Start Mode (On)


That last one (#4) is what enables sleep mode. This means when you press power OFF it doesn't really turn off, it enters standby or sleep.

You will insert the flash drive with the player already sleeping (OFF), but that only works after you've ensured the above 4 settings.

So that's really it, if you have a choice of a flash drive with an LED activity indicator, choose that one as it is quite useful in seeing what is happening. With no LED you just have to sit tight.

With a properly formatted flash drive and the A3 script, on an S7200 already sleeping (front panel display has ceased flashing "OFF"), you do the following:
  1. Insert flash drive, watch tray open
  2. place an SACD in the tray within 10 seconds
  3. watch tray auto-close after 10 seconds has elapsed
  4. observe LED activity indicating ISO write in process
  5. observe LED go dark, tray auto-opens, ISO is complete
Please note there is an AutoRip basic instruction document on the same download page as the A3 script.
 
OK great, I'd prepare the flash drive as NTFS format, with MBR, just one single partition.

The A3 script will actually use the same player settings as the other Sony methods, i.e. it needs to be setup for sleep mode.

Here are the complete settings you will use via the Sony's onscreen display menus:

1. Setup -> Audio Settings -> DSD Output Mode (Off)

2. Setup -> BD/DVD Viewing Settings -> BD Internet Connection (Do not allow)

3. Setup -> Music Settings -> Super Audio CD Playback Layer (SACD)

4. Setup -> System Settings -> Quick Start Mode (On)


That last one (#4) is what enables sleep mode. This means when you press power OFF it doesn't really turn off, it enters standby or sleep.

You will insert the flash drive with the player already sleeping (OFF), but that only works after you've ensured the above 4 settings.

So that's really it, if you have a choice of a flash drive with an LED activity indicator, choose that one as it is quite useful in seeing what is happening. With no LED you just have to sit tight.

With a properly formatted flash drive and the A3 script, on an S7200 already sleeping (front panel display has ceased flashing "OFF"), you do the following:
  1. Insert flash drive, watch tray open
  2. place an SACD in the tray within 10 seconds
  3. watch tray auto-close after 10 seconds has elapsed
  4. observe LED activity indicating ISO write in process
  5. observe LED go dark, tray auto-opens
Please note there is an AutoRip basic instruction document on the same download page as the A3 script.
Thank you that seems very comprehensive, I'm sure II will be able to follow those instructions & I will print them as a 'cheat sheet' & I will give it a go later in the day.
 
One small item to add that may or may not be of significance with a Sony Blu-ray player, but another member has confirmed that the Oppo players will in fact work with flash drives formatted exFAT, even though their manual clearly states FAT32 and NTFS compatibility only.

This leaves me wondering if exFAT would also work on the Sony or Pioneer players too.

It's something I will test, as my home computers are Mac and Linux, both compatible with exFAT, and neither are compatible with NTFS. Because exFAT also works with Windows, that would make it perfect for universal acceptance by any platform so long as the Sony/Pioneer players are willing to cooperate as the Oppo does.
 
Hello again, Your instructions worked like a dream for 2 of my 3 SACDs, unfortunately the third seems to be resistant to ripping. It is a TUDOR label disc made in switzerland of Italian Concertos and arias for Trumpet and Soprano - Gabor Tarkovi Trumpet soloist. The Case & Disc both have the SACD logo on them. I've tried & tried but after a few seconds the disc tray opens & stays open. If there are resistant Discs it might be worth adding this one to the list. I have tried cleaning it carefully but still no joy.
 
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