Doghouse Riley
Senior Junior Member
I've a couple of vinyl jukeboxes. I've had them for well over a decade. I didn't pay a lot for them, they'd been in private hands for more than half their lifetimes, so just needed a bit of tarting up cosmetically and a "lube job."
I keep them in this I built thirty years ago at the bottom of our garden (my wife won't let me have them in our small semi, she says with my vintage hi-fi system, my two jukebox wall box/adapter/ipod systems connected to my vintage hi-fi, plus my Tyros 5 leccy piano (sorry! "work station" as they are called now) and my tenor sax, "enough is enough."
These are they, They aren't classics, but you wouldn't want to keep an expensive one in an unheated environment.
1969 Rock-Ola 443 (Motown and similar)
1976 Rock-Ola 468 (50/60/70/80s Pop, Doo-Wop, Jazz Standards)
It's quite dry in there, but I keep two inspection lamps burning in the cabinets to provide some heat and I cover them with blankets in the cold months. They are mostly used to provide "gardening music" in the summer months, but I turn them over a few times a week throughout the year. "Use being the best form of preventative maintenance."
Anyway, for the last couple of years, the 468 has been giving me a bit of a problem. When I operated the scan switch to rotate the carousel on any "gardening" or "maintenance" visits, it would often trip out the mechanical circuit breaker, (top left) and I'd have to press the re-set to get it going again. It might do it when I played the first of a number of records, then it'd behave itself.... Until next time.
I've removed the play relay many times, (that "half brick" above the carousel) cleaned the pins and sprayed them and the socket with Servisol and made sure I'd pushed it back firmly as it's quite heavy, but it might still do it the next time I used it.
I went through this chore again a few days ago. But as I replaced the play relay pushing it firmly against the front cover, I noticed the plastic socket "gave" a little. It would seem that the pins weren't ever really going all the way home. I didn't fancy taking the cover off the box. I'm a firm believer in not messing with near forty year-old wiring unnecessarily. So I steaded the top of the socket with a small screwdriver against the front of the box, whilst I pushed the relay home.
Problem solved!
It seems likely that one of the many pins in the relay wasn't making as good a contact as it should. Normally, when you push in a relay, when you meet some resitance, in this case the metal casing against the plastic shell of the relay, you'd think it was properly seated.
It's behaved itself faultlessly ever since.
Here in Manchester, it's like "Area 51" a long way from any knowlegeable jukebox repairers and they don't want to go there anyway except for "an arm and a leg," so I think I've saved myself at least a couple of hundred quid.
I keep them in this I built thirty years ago at the bottom of our garden (my wife won't let me have them in our small semi, she says with my vintage hi-fi system, my two jukebox wall box/adapter/ipod systems connected to my vintage hi-fi, plus my Tyros 5 leccy piano (sorry! "work station" as they are called now) and my tenor sax, "enough is enough."
These are they, They aren't classics, but you wouldn't want to keep an expensive one in an unheated environment.
1969 Rock-Ola 443 (Motown and similar)
1976 Rock-Ola 468 (50/60/70/80s Pop, Doo-Wop, Jazz Standards)
It's quite dry in there, but I keep two inspection lamps burning in the cabinets to provide some heat and I cover them with blankets in the cold months. They are mostly used to provide "gardening music" in the summer months, but I turn them over a few times a week throughout the year. "Use being the best form of preventative maintenance."
Anyway, for the last couple of years, the 468 has been giving me a bit of a problem. When I operated the scan switch to rotate the carousel on any "gardening" or "maintenance" visits, it would often trip out the mechanical circuit breaker, (top left) and I'd have to press the re-set to get it going again. It might do it when I played the first of a number of records, then it'd behave itself.... Until next time.
I've removed the play relay many times, (that "half brick" above the carousel) cleaned the pins and sprayed them and the socket with Servisol and made sure I'd pushed it back firmly as it's quite heavy, but it might still do it the next time I used it.
I went through this chore again a few days ago. But as I replaced the play relay pushing it firmly against the front cover, I noticed the plastic socket "gave" a little. It would seem that the pins weren't ever really going all the way home. I didn't fancy taking the cover off the box. I'm a firm believer in not messing with near forty year-old wiring unnecessarily. So I steaded the top of the socket with a small screwdriver against the front of the box, whilst I pushed the relay home.
Problem solved!
It seems likely that one of the many pins in the relay wasn't making as good a contact as it should. Normally, when you push in a relay, when you meet some resitance, in this case the metal casing against the plastic shell of the relay, you'd think it was properly seated.
It's behaved itself faultlessly ever since.
Here in Manchester, it's like "Area 51" a long way from any knowlegeable jukebox repairers and they don't want to go there anyway except for "an arm and a leg," so I think I've saved myself at least a couple of hundred quid.
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