Stereo Heart Break

S0und Dragon

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I have been meaning to put this down somewhere for a while now, but I have just not been motivated to do it. I was hoping that my situation would have been resolved and that I would simply make a post about it after the fact and move on. But none of this has happened and to be honest, I do not know when this will resolve itself. So if you will indulge me, let me tell you why my stereo has broken my heart and why I just cannot seem to come to a place of peace with it.

It all started a few weeks ago when I finally found some time to install an "upgrade" for my Lumin T2 streamer. The upgrade in question was the sBooster kit. It would bypass/remove the internal power supply for an outboard connector that would allow the use of a 12V sBooster LPS. I will add the caveat that I was aware this would void the Lumin warranty. So please spare me that point as I am now, and was aware then, of this fact, ahead of time. Instalation was straight forward and did require a single wire cut and removal of the IEC receptacle.

Initial play back after the Mod was good. After finishing the mod and performing an initial test, I decided to put it in the cabinet in its new home. And that’s when the problems started. It worked, but the output volume was greatly reduced. I was gutted. After extensive and exhausting troubleshooting. Dissembling everything I had painstakingly put together, I had no answers. I reached out to the Lumin distributor as well as the dealer we’re I purchased the sBooster from to see if they had any insight. My streaming came to a standstill and curiously enough, my enjoyment of stereo went with it.

I am not sure if it is just the culmination of all of the above but something has snapped in me. I am just so done with it. I entered into a downward spiral and just cannot pull out of it. I am mad at myself for messing with it when it was working fine. Mad at sBooster for selling a crappy mod. And mad at dealer and manufacturer for making the repair process so needlessly complicated. The dealer has my Lumin now and thought they figured out the issue, being a board fuse. That did not resolve the issue and was just another dead end. They are now putting the internal power supply back on and it will most likely be headed back to Lumin for what undoubtedly will become a board swap. All I can do is wait and see.

In the meantime, I have been thinking about what I will do about streaming moving forward…..eventually. I will bounce back. But I have a feeling that I will not be the same. I want to sell it all off and buy a Bose Wave Radio right now.
 

adaug

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In the meantime, I have been thinking about what I will do about streaming moving forward…..eventually. I will bounce back. But I have a feeling that I will not be the same. I want to sell it all off and buy a Bose Wave Radio right now.
bummer. that sounds like a nightmare. hopefully a fix will work and enjoyment will return. hang in there.
 

MikeO

Active Member
Don't have any great advice about this situation but I will say that I know the lows of broken gear from years and years of constant gear changes in the pursuit of better. The thing with lows is that in my opinion they really are necessary to enjoy the highs and to reset our priorities. All it will take is a good tech to find a solution, a bit of cash and a bit of time. Once that has passed you will quickly forget about that particular issue. The tougher part though is figuring out whether the upgrades are really something you want or whether it is just a pursuit of the mythical better. I think carefully thought out upgrades can enhance the hobby but constant upgrades can really take all enjoyment away from it. Just my opinion of course based on my own experiences. And I have to admit, even though my gear changes have reduced significantly over the last couple of years, it is a constant battle.
 

JohnVF

Administrator
Staff member
From one audio burnout to another, cheers.

The biggest sacrilege in this hobby is to be content or even attempt to be. While I’ve been where you are, I got out of it eventually- though mine was usually turntable related, or from having chased this or that recommendation only to have it result in disappointment and squandered money I could have spent on other things.

I’d suggest letting it cool for a bit and then maybe coming back from a different angle and to try to get off the never ending upgrade path. “It’s never good enough”. This constant chasing of minutia, and then I look around and it’s my non audiophile friends who seem to be enjoying music more...

I guess I’m no help because admittedly I can’t stand most of the tropes of this hobby, and don’t want to play the game the same anymore.
 

MikeyFresh

Moderator
Staff member
I have been meaning to put this down somewhere for a while now, but I have just not been motivated to do it. I was hoping that my situation would have been resolved and that I would simply make a post about it after the fact and move on. But none of this has happened and to be honest, I do not know when this will resolve itself. So if you will indulge me, let me tell you why my stereo has broken my heart and why I just cannot seem to come to a place of peace with it.

It all started a few weeks ago when I finally found some time to install an "upgrade" for my Lumin T2 streamer. The upgrade in question was the sBooster kit. It would bypass/remove the internal power supply for an outboard connector that would allow the use of a 12V sBooster LPS. I will add the caveat that I was aware this would void the Lumin warranty. So please spare me that point as I am now, and was aware then, of this fact, ahead of time. Instalation was straight forward and did require a single wire cut and removal of the IEC receptacle.

Initial play back after the Mod was good. After finishing the mod and performing an initial test, I decided to put it in the cabinet in its new home. And that’s when the problems started. It worked, but the output volume was greatly reduced. I was gutted. After extensive and exhausting troubleshooting. Dissembling everything I had painstakingly put together, I had no answers. I reached out to the Lumin distributor as well as the dealer we’re I purchased the sBooster from to see if they had any insight. My streaming came to a standstill and curiously enough, my enjoyment of stereo went with it.

I am not sure if it is just the culmination of all of the above but something has snapped in me. I am just so done with it. I entered into a downward spiral and just cannot pull out of it. I am mad at myself for messing with it when it was working fine. Mad at sBooster for selling a crappy mod. And mad at dealer and manufacturer for making the repair process so needlessly complicated. The dealer has my Lumin now and thought they figured out the issue, being a board fuse. That did not resolve the issue and was just another dead end. They are now putting the internal power supply back on and it will most likely be headed back to Lumin for what undoubtedly will become a board swap. All I can do is wait and see.

In the meantime, I have been thinking about what I will do about streaming moving forward…..eventually. I will bounce back. But I have a feeling that I will not be the same. I want to sell it all off and buy a Bose Wave Radio right now.
Sorry to hear about the upgrade/modification gone bad, and sorrier still to hear the saga with Lumin continues. In the meantime a Raspberry Pi should provide you with an inexpensive headache-free stopgap/interim solution should you feel the motivation.

Please remind me, are you running any local library server such as Roon, or does streaming really just take the form of Qobuz from the cloud at this point?
 

S0und Dragon

Moderator and Circus Hand.
Staff member
Sorry to hear about the upgrade/modification gone bad, and sorrier still to hear the saga with Lumin continues. In the meantime a Raspberry Pi should provide you with an inexpensive headache-free stopgap/interim solution should you feel the motivation.

Please remind me, are you running any local library server such as Roon, or does streaming really just take the form of Qobuz from the cloud at this point?
I opted to not renew Roon and it will expire end of the month. All subscriptions are cancelled until I figure out how and where I am headed. At the low cost of entry, a Pi build will happen within the next month or so.
 
The thing with lows is that in my opinion they really are necessary to enjoy the highs and to reset our priorities. L
I agree completely with MikeO. The low points can indeed be turned into positives after things get better, which they will. It just takes a while.

Back in my school days, I used to pack up my entire Hifi when I got near final exams and left it alone for 2 or 3 weeks while I was studying. That lapse gave me a fresh perspective on my system when I eventually turned it back on, and I was always amazed by how good it sounded. I guess that’s just a variation of Absence Makes the Heart Grow Fonder.
 

MrEd

Senior Nobody
The highs and lows of audio... I have quite a history of failures believe me.
Only thing is I'm too stubborn to to quit, The latest is streaming audio and pi ... still an on going love hate relationship at this point. This morning I ready to throw it all in the dumpster, yet as I type I am enjoying it.
In the end I learn and bank that knowledge gained from my mistakes and move forward.
I hope you can do the same, because music, really good music is joy.
 
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As a Lumin dealer I get asked often about the Sbooster and my answer is always the same - while it may improve the sound, I enjoy the Lumin products as-is and can't recommend doing it. As a hobbyist, I probably would go down that path out of sheer curiosity. The two perspectives are very different.

I'm sorry this has all happened to you and its frustrating when the 'easy' becomes hard. Lumin themselves run a great ship and I've seen them go above and beyond to try to fix an issue with, not even a friend, but a contact of mine who bought it used and CC'ed me in the process. It was quite a saga that unfolded.
 
I know what it is like to never be content with what I have, despite the fact that I have so many good things in a world where so many have so little, are homeless or oppressed by the circumstances of tragedy or fate - that I am always looking for something more or something better, finding reasons to be unhappy with all I've got. Always seeking for an upgrade, for the perfectly mastered LP or CD, fretting over the holes in a music collection so vast I will never find time to listen to most of it more than once or twice.

There is a lot to be said for gratitude, appreciation and simple contentment.

And I feel your pain. B R E A T H E . . .
 

S0und Dragon

Moderator and Circus Hand.
Staff member
As a side note, I would advise against the sBooster mod simply because it removes the Fuse and offers no over voltage or spark protection. So in the event of a rogue spark which is what I suspect happened to me, the board is eating it. This may end up being an expensive lesson.

It is not lost on me how blessed and privileged I am with the quality and quantity of sources here. Playing the Modwright modded Sony SCD-XA5400es has me jamming out today. But, the loss of the Lumin is definitely felt. It is an amazing piece of kit. Sounds twice as good as it costs. To buy a comparable DAC and streamer with a no learning curve app to interface with would set you back more and may not net you the same sound.

I will bounce back, but this one hurt.
 

Audionut

Next Round Is On Me
I fell for you and have definitely experienced something similar.
When it happened to me, it brought the old saying to mind “if it’s not broke....)”.
Was there history of prior user’s experiencing this problem post-mod?
 

S0und Dragon

Moderator and Circus Hand.
Staff member
I fell for you and have definitely experienced something similar.
When it happened to me, it brought the old saying to mind “if it’s not broke....)”.
Was there history of prior user’s experiencing this problem post-mod?
Not at all. Not a single mention. It really led me to believe that this was a safe bet. But the adage of small risk is still some risk applies here.
 
As a side note, I would advise against the sBooster mod simply because it removes the Fuse and offers no over voltage or spark protection. So in the event of a rogue spark which is what I suspect happened to me, the board is eating it. This may end up being an expensive lesson.

It is not lost on me how blessed and privileged I am with the quality and quantity of sources here. Playing the Modwright modded Sony SCD-XA5400es has me jamming out today. But, the loss of the Lumin is definitely felt. It is an amazing piece of kit. Sounds twice as good as it costs. To buy a comparable DAC and streamer with a no learning curve app to interface with would set you back more and may not net you the same sound.

I will bounce back, but this one hurt.

The T2 is nice kit for the money. At a higher price point though, there are some really nice $5k DACs that can be paired with a U1 mini and kick some major arse. I’ve been pairing mine with the Norma DS-1 and it is superior to a T2. Factoring in additional power cable and usb brings it close to twice the price though.

I am currently using a U1 mini a client sent to Uptone to get modded for their LPSU. It works flawlessly but I’m not sure how much gain there was as I don’t have an unmodified version and there have been many new elements to the system.
 
Very sorry to read about your setbacks. We all of course accept the risk of the occasional turntable mishap, but there other other pitfalls lurking about too like this. I hope you can get "back on the horse" so to speak before too long.

Take a break from the main rig for a while until your ears have forgotten what it sounds like. Then come back and let it amaze you all over again. It's pretty much what I do every summer and the fall is always a treat :-).
 

240sx4u

Technically It's LexusGuy
Well that's one heck of a bummer. Here's hoping your T2 can be resurrected without too much more heartache.
 
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