The “H” word (Edit: Harbeth!)

airdronian

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There is a UK company called "Something Solid" that makes custom open frame stands for Harbeth speakers. I can't find out much on them, though I've seen their stands in photos. This one is for the Monitor 30. Not the last word in aesthetics but they're probably closest to what the speakers actually want to be sitting on. Also, looks like something a local craftsman could make for you.

When I first got my SHL-5s I made stands similar to this from a pair of old metal frame end tables. They worked out well and I used them for long time.
During the demo I had the C7's ended up on a pair of Foundation metal stands - there is even a brochure for them in the factory packaging. They have a metal framework not unlike the stands you illustrate. They don't have the "feet" that are shown above, and the spikes were welded onto the bottom corners. The somewhat ratty used pair that we demoed with weren't going to be all that cheap, and new ones were more than I wanted to spend. No real adjustments for the spikes, and I wanted to avoid those anyway due to the hardwood floor here.

They don't seem to be made anymore - a search for Foundation stands for Harbeth shows the stands for the M40 as metal, but ones for the C7 are a four post model. Planet of Sound advertises them. https://www.planetofsoundonline.com/collections/speaker-stands

I'm just happy to be done with all this. :biggrin:
 

JohnVF

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As far as I know the Foundation stands aren't made anymore. I use them under my SHL-5s but I bought them used. I believe they were $500 new?
 

DC

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Audio has taken a back seat to work this week, but was able to squeeze in some listening on Thursday night and again tonight.

There is something vey compelling about these (duh)... I need to keep listening to come up with words, but "clarity" with every positive connotation (and no negative connotations) is kinda what I'm thinking I'm hearing - not "horn speaker in your face" clarity, or "metal tweeter on Cocaine" clarity, or even "Yes, officer, I understand" clarity, more like "wow, I can actually hear the overtone interaction between the Celeste and the glockenspiel up above the orchestra" type of clarity, or "gee, I never knew she was actually smoking a cigarette on stage during this performance" type of clarity, or "I think this was recorded with ribbon-mics" type of clarity.

Still need different/better stands to get the height correct and improve the coupling, or lack thereof, but the motivation to do so is heightening.
 

airdronian

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Audio has taken a back seat to work this week, but was able to squeeze in some listening on Thursday night and again tonight.

There is something vey compelling about these (duh)... I need to keep listening to come up with words, but "clarity" with every positive connotation (and no negative connotations) is kinda what I'm thinking I'm hearing - not "horn speaker in your face" clarity, or "metal tweeter on Cocaine" clarity, or even "Yes, officer, I understand" clarity, more like "wow, I can actually hear the overtone interaction between the Celeste and the glockenspiel up above the orchestra" type of clarity, or "gee, I never knew she was actually smoking a cigarette on stage during this performance" type of clarity, or "I think this was recorded with ribbon-mics" type of clarity.

Still need different/better stands to get the height correct and improve the coupling, or lack thereof, but the motivation to do so is heightening.
When I first heard the model I have, my descriptor was "detail without harshness". And I like what they can do at modest volume.
 

DC

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When I first heard the model I have, my descriptor was "detail without harshness". And I like what they can do at modest volume.
I think we have the same ones - C7ES-3?

I've heard "detail" in spades many times and in many contexts, it's more than detail, even "detail without harshness" (which I appreciate your descriptor). When I think clarity, I think of something bigger than detail - something less, but giving more. Eh? Like a research assistant able to give tons of detail(s), but the professor presents it up concisely with clarity. It's not that the details aren't there, but the delivery is clearer, cleaner, less actually focused on the details, but more whole. I've been purposely avoiding using the word timbre, but that's really at the root of it: it's natural timbre, with details and whole picture clarity.

Anyway, I've been spinning CDs, but turned to some LPs later tonight and it's oh-so-good listening. <insert music "emojie">
 

airdronian

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Yup - HL Compact C7ES-3. Or, C7 for brevity. Natural timbre, I'd agree with that. And I also like the bass presentation when the music calls for it. I think these speakers do a lot right. Others might have different preferences, but for me this seems to be a good fit. Quite happy with mine.
 

JohnVF

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I've often struggled, too, describing what it is that really has won me over with them. "Detail" conjures up an idea of hi-fi-ness to me, a whole bunch of sonic whiz-bangs and upper-frequency sparkle, but that's not it. The detail they add is not the usual detail. It's.... again, I'm at a loss. It's almost like there's just less of a fog around everything. It's tonal and timbral detail, harmonic content. Perhaps its the thin cabinet design releasing resonance that clouds the midrange, because to me its the midrange that seems more free of coloration and the previously mentioned fog.

Whatever it is, I'm glad others here are hearing it. It makes me realize I'm not going crazy over here.

Have you heard the Monitor 30s? They're soooooo good. If I won the lottery and had all the money to spend on any speakers I wanted...I'd not buy $50,000 multi-driver giant crossover 100lb cabinet this or thats...I'd just get Monitor 40.1s for the living room, 30s for the bedroom, and move the SHL-5s to where the BC-1s are.
 

airdronian

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I've not heard the Monitor 30's - but have seen very positive comments about them. The only ones I've personally heard were the P3, C7, and SHL5.
 

Audionut

Next Round Is On Me
Must fight the urge to buy a set!.......Curious as to how Harbeths would compare to concentric Tannoy's in a similar or larger format?
 
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DC

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Some progress: I borrowed a couple of small lamp tables from around the house that are just the right height and nearly the right size - 21" tall with 12" square top plates (beveled to about 11") - and they’re serving admirably as temporary stands - a marked improvement. I thought of these (duh) after a few Google searches and following some forum references to various IKEA stools and hating everything I saw. These aren't perfect, but the top plate is just about right for cork-pads in the corners for similar coupling (or lack thereof) as most of the other "proper" stands I've seen, so there's that.

I’m still digesting the prices of the recommended stands - I like the Tontragers, but $$$ (and need to be imported), I contacted Resonant Woods and they are about $800 shipped (black), and the Hi-Fi Racks Ltd. ones on Planet of Sound website in Canada are really nice, but also $$$. I haven't yet contacted the local Harbeth dealer (as Ernie suggested above); this requires more mulling over.

Anyway, these are now at just the right height and in spite of absorbing a few surplus components from the system downstairs, I was able to tidy up a little, too. (No choice, this place is stuffed full - 10 lbs. of [excrement] in a 5 lb. bag.) What you don't see are the 4 other sets of speakers, 2 sets of stands, and about 4 more boxes of records from downstairs, plus other junque. Time for a fire sale?

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airdronian

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Some progress: I borrowed a couple of small lamp tables from around the house that are just the right height and nearly the right size - 21" tall with 12" square top plates (beveled to about 11") - and they’re serving admirably as temporary stands - a marked improvement. I thought of these (duh) after a few Google searches and following some forum references to various IKEA stools and hating everything I saw. These aren't perfect, but the top plate is just about right for cork-pads in the corners for similar coupling (or lack thereof) as most of the other "proper" stands I've seen, so there's that.

I’m still digesting the prices of the recommended stands - I like the Tontragers, but $$$ (and need to be imported), I contacted Resonant Woods and they are about $800 shipped (black), and the Hi-Fi Racks Ltd. ones on Planet of Sound website in Canada are really nice, but also $$$. I haven't yet contacted the local Harbeth dealer (as Ernie suggested above); this requires more mulling over.

Anyway, these are now at just the right height and in spite of absorbing a few surplus components from the system downstairs, I was able to tidy up a little, too. (No choice, this place is stuffed full - 10 lbs. of [excrement] in a 5 lb. bag.) What you don't see are the 4 other sets of speakers, 2 sets of stands, and about 4 more boxes of records from downstairs, plus other junque. Time for a fire sale?
At least you've got the height now. Now you can take your time with the stand selection, and get what works for you.
 
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DC

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At least you've got the height now. Now you can take your time with the stand selection, and get what works for you.
Yeah, that was kind of my goal - just get something quick to do more/better listening. This will be “good enough” for now.
 

TubeHiFiNut

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Some progress: I borrowed a couple of small lamp tables from around the house that are just the right height and nearly the right size - 21" tall with 12" square top plates (beveled to about 11") - and they’re serving admirably as temporary stands - a marked improvement. I thought of these (duh) after a few Google searches and following some forum references to various IKEA stools and hating everything I saw. These aren't perfect, but the top plate is just about right for cork-pads in the corners for similar coupling (or lack thereof) as most of the other "proper" stands I've seen, so there's that.

I’m still digesting the prices of the recommended stands - I like the Tontragers, but $$$ (and need to be imported), I contacted Resonant Woods and they are about $800 shipped (black), and the Hi-Fi Racks Ltd. ones on Planet of Sound website in Canada are really nice, but also $$$. I haven't yet contacted the local Harbeth dealer (as Ernie suggested above); this requires more mulling over.

Anyway, these are now at just the right height and in spite of absorbing a few surplus components from the system downstairs, I was able to tidy up a little, too. (No choice, this place is stuffed full - 10 lbs. of [excrement] in a 5 lb. bag.) What you don't see are the 4 other sets of speakers, 2 sets of stands, and about 4 more boxes of records from downstairs, plus other junque. Time for a fire sale?

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Starting to look like my Man Cave. ;)
 
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