The coffee drinkers club thread.

Thermionics

Post Whore In Training
To get the right extraction you need to balance out:

1. brewing time
2. grind size/amount
3. temperature

And if the grinds are all different sizes, you have absolutely no way to control 1/3 of the variables. You have absolutely no way to make a great cup of coffee. And great coffee hinges on nailing the brewing time. You can switch things up by having a larger grind and using more coffee and/or increasing the time. But having a consistently sized grind is necessary either way.
I think we've got #1 and #3 covered with the 60oz Technivorm Moccamaster drip machine we use on a daily basis:

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However, I'm starting to think the Cuisinart burr grinder we've been using is letting us down on the grind (too many fines end up in the grind). I might have to look at something a little more refined.

Anyone have any experience with the Baratza Encore?

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JohnVF

Administrator
Staff member
I was going to get the Baratza Encore when I was shopping for something smaller than my Mazzer. I cheaped out and got an Oxo grinder instead, that isn't that good...too much dust in the grind, its not that consistent. The new grinder mentioned above is MUCH better.

I really think that the Technivorm deserves better! I personally notice a big difference in coffee taste from grind size..not just good vs bad but variation in taste.
 

Doghouse Riley

Senior Junior Member
We've had many different coffee making machines from the days of Cona and methylated spirit lamps.

We had one of these for twelve years, it had to be replaced once under guarantee, but then it was forever going wrong so I binned it.

The only advantage it had was it had two boilers so you could brew coffee and froth milk at the same time. The dials steamed up.

They are substantially built of mostly cast steel, weigh in at around 28lb.

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We now have one of these. It will only brew one cup at a time, but there's only two of us home now, so it's adequate. It's quite sophisticated. You can set two different dispensing quantities. It also tells you when it needs cleaning.

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It's the best one we ever had, far more crema than with the last one.

I've a Cuisinart burr grinder


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and I only grind enough beans for the brew I'm about to make.

I serve cappuccinos with chocolate sprinkles and Amaretti biscuits.

I use Taylors Italian blend beans, we get through a pack a week. I buy them half a dozen packets at a time when they are on promotion.

On the subject of Kitchenaid products. I'm becoming rather unenamoured.

We have one of these, it's had to be replaced twice under guarantee.

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We've also one of these. It hasn't gone wrong yet, but we've only had it three months.


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We moved two and half years ago and the sellers of our house installed all Whirlpool crap appliances. I just spent $150 on four new gas stove knobs to replace the ones that split in the shaft and although they are weighted they still have the crapola shafts which I will reinforce with tubing and epoxy.

So I was at costco a day or two ago and saw a beautiful kitchen aid stainless steel stove. It was $4500 !!!!😕
 

airdronian

Radar Member
We moved two and half years ago and the sellers of our house installed all Whirlpool crap appliances. I just spent $150 on four new gas stove knobs to replace the ones that split in the shaft and although they are weighted they still have the crapola shafts which I will reinforce with tubing and epoxy.

So I was at costco a day or two ago and saw a beautiful kitchen aid stainless steel stove. It was $4500 !!!!😕
Our Samsung oven did the same thing. I was fooled by the weight of the knobs when first viewing it. Cleaned them up, crazy glued where required, and added a small ring clamp.
 

Doghouse Riley

Senior Junior Member
We moved two and half years ago and the sellers of our house installed all Whirlpool crap appliances. I just spent $150 on four new gas stove knobs to replace the ones that split in the shaft and although they are weighted they still have the crapola shafts which I will reinforce with tubing and epoxy.

So I was at costco a day or two ago and saw a beautiful kitchen aid stainless steel stove. It was $4500 !!!!😕


When I refitted our small kitchen I bought the top of the range Stoves built in oven. But it was poorly designed with no removable roof liner. Consequently it was impossible to clean. When contacting Stoves, they suggested using a toothbrush to clean around the element!
In the end we ditched it and bought a Baumatic, nearly half the price and twice as good. This has a removeable roof liner.

Unfortunately price is no indicator of quality. I find the general standard of the construction of domesric appliances quote poor. Both our Bosch washing machine and dishwasher had to be replaced under guarantee a couple of years ago and an expensive Miele fridge/freezer we bought last year packed up after only three months.
 

Dan ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

Bear Without A Care
I remember reading a few years ago, that all manufacturers got together and agreed that all new appliances, no matter the brand or cost, would last no longer than 5 years. That is proving itself out. Speed Queen was the last really well made washer and GE Pro Line was the last of the others.
 

Doghouse Riley

Senior Junior Member
I remember reading a few years ago, that all manufacturers got together and agreed that all new appliances, no matter the brand or cost, would last no longer than 5 years. That is proving itself out. Speed Queen was the last really well made washer and GE Pro Line was the last of the others.

I'm sure this is likely.

We had a Bosch fridge/freezer before the Miele. That lasted five years before the auto-defrost gave out, which meant every four months or so the element in freezer section iced up so it lost temperature and the alarm would sound, usually about midnight when we were about to go to bed. So I had to empty everything out of it and remove the interior rear panel and defrost the element with a hairdryer. Then turn it back on again. It was back to normal temperature by the morning. Fortunately we've a couple of back-up freezers in the garage as we sometimes by food on-line so there's always a bit of spare capacity so everythibg go temporarily go in those. This fault was and probably still is, very common with Bosch fridge/freezers.

Back in the seventies we had a Hotpoint Iced Diamond fridge/freezer which was actually a fridge sitting on top of a freezer. It had separate compressors but just one control panel. It was still working after 20 years.
 

Dan ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

Bear Without A Care
I have a 1984 GE stove/range unit...1985 Maytag washer and dryers...and a 1987 Magic Chef fridge/freezer....all still work and all have never given me a moments worry. :) No way the new crap will do that.
 
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StevenZ

Pending Gold Star Member
Just finished a bag of this. Probably one of the finest pre-ground bags of coffee I've come across in my local grocery stores. I far prefer this to McCafe and others I've had. It's smooth, earthy, not very acidic and has some nice chocolate tones. If you can find it, grab a bag.


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adaug

Awaiting Updated Member Status.
Just finished a bag of this. Probably one of the finest pre-ground bags of coffee I've come across in my local grocery stores. I far prefer this to McCafe and others I've had. It's smooth, earthy, not very acidic and has some nice chocolate tones. If you can find it, grab a bag.


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thanks for the tip!
 

Dan ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

Bear Without A Care
The McCafe, for whatever reason, isn't as good as it used to be. So me and another friend went looking for a replacement. I think we found it in Laughing Man Hugh Jackman's Blend. It's ever so slightly dark, but very smooth. You can drink it black or with a bit of sugar and cream.

 

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StevenZ

Pending Gold Star Member
The McCafe, for whatever reason, isn't as good as it used to be. So me and another friend went looking for a replacement. I think we found it in Laughing Man Hugh Jackman's Blend. It's ever so slightly dark, but very smooth. You can drink it black or with a bit of sugar and cream.
Would love to find some locally
 

adaug

Awaiting Updated Member Status.
The McCafe, for whatever reason, isn't as good as it used to be. So me and another friend went looking for a replacement. I think we found it in Laughing Man Hugh Jackman's Blend. It's ever so slightly dark, but very smooth. You can drink it black or with a bit of sugar and cream.

where can this be found?
 
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