It looks as if we have had the first case in my family. My stepson who works at the local NATO base here in NL has had covid19. It seems to have been one of the milder cases as he has had a heavy flu like sympoms but the symptoms do match those prescribed. He is very tired from it but has come through OK without needing help.
Best of luck to your stepson and to everyone else suffering and worrying.
Didn’t he just appoint himself Prime Minister for 2 years?This is an interesting story................
Coronavirus: Prime Minister Boris Johnson tests positive
The health secretary also has the virus, England's chief medical officer has symptoms, and the number of UK deaths jumps to 759.www.bbc.com
That's interesting
Actually, I think I'v been alive for around 7 or 8 world pandemics, the last one being in 2009 H1N1
From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.
Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age.
Then of course there was SARS-CoV in 2003, no biggie, but that killed a bunch of people also.
Another one was Ebola virus in 1976 and it's seems to be recurring often, at least the past few years.
I'm sure I could spend the day talking about those deaths counting one by one all day long, but we wont.
Still is, that's our common seasonal flu, in fact we better not talk about all those deaths well into the 60,000+ in the U.S. alone this year.
The 1% death rate for this only holds until ventilators run out. Then it approaches somewhere between 7-10% given what we've seen in Italy and now Spain. The infection rate, being a novel virus, is higher than any flu. Extrapolate using grade school math (keep up) and you quickly get into the MILLIONS of deaths in the US in a few months unless you reduce the infection rate from each person to below infecting one other person. Unchecked its more than 3 people infected per infected person, higher than the flu. Exponential spread.
SARS death rate was closer to 30%. But, you see, its symptoms occurred almost immediately and rapidly killed the infected. So...it DIDN'T SPREAD.
H5N1 killed tens of thousands BUT its morbidity rate was a fraction of what we believe COVID 19's to be.
This is my polite way of saying that you have no idea what you're talking about, but you're good at repeating things you've read elsewhere, things that I've seen posted verbatim by other people without an ounce of personal input or interpretation ... suggesting you're just repeating from a certain echo chamber we're all well aware of.
I don't disagree with with what @JohnVF has said - that other poster's comments such as "put on your big boy boots and get back to work" (different forum) doesn't work with me. What is going on in New York today is crazy. I'll side with caution and plan for the worse case and not at all try to provide any political or other opinion on the subject.I read your reply and it leads me to one question......Just what exactly IS your expertise in this field.....Please inform us I'm anxious for you to tell us .......
I can read and know what is and isn't a reliable source. Facts aren't subjective. I don't are what your political beliefs are, you don't get to make reality to whatever it is you want.I read your reply and it leads me to one question......Just what exactly IS your expertise in this field.....Please inform us I'm anxious for you to tell us .......
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Just remembered that we have a UV light setup once used to expose silkscreens. It will now serve as an incoming parcel and grocery irradiator.
Beyond that, we he posted came with a good deal of Dunning Kruger. He said things that he thought sounded smart on a gut level, when they were logically flawed. Basing our approach to this disease based on what is happening at the beginning of its spread is absurd. "It's only killed 20,000! Flu kills 60,000!" ...and? So what. Flu won't kill millions in a year. This easily could kill millions in months. But sure, lets base our actions on the behavior of something at the beginning of an exponential curve and not at its peak.I don't disagree with with what @JohnVF has said - that other poster's comments such as "put on your big boy boots and get back to work" (different forum) doesn't work with me. What is going on in New York today is crazy. I'll side with caution and plan for the worse case and not at all try to provide any political or other opinion on the subject.
We should all be talking about how this is hitting us personally - such as your Netherlands stories which I find interesting.