The Doorway System 2015

prime minister

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So, how about something like this:

Pioneer SP-BS22LR - $130



NAD D3020 Integrated Amp/DAC - Plug in your computer. Or even stream to it through your phone. Brilliant - $500




U-Turn Orbit Turntable with Cartridge - $179



U-Turn Pluto Phono Stage - $89



All in $898. Gives great sound and two sources (I'm conceding that everyone reading this has a computer or Smart Phone.

 

JohnVF

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I would suggest something like the Yamaha HS-7 active monitor, controlled by a dac-pre of choice, even the AQ Dragonfly would suffice, and using a computer as a source for either Tidal or a NAS server setup. I own the HS-7s, they're surprisingly clean, clear, and revealing, with only their imaging falling a bit off the pace. Though the Pioneer speakers with the NAD is also quite nice. I wouldn't recommend a doorway turntable system unless somebody really really wanted it. And I feel that under $1000 you're better off in the used TT market. I really don't care for any of the current entry level tables. Maybe the RP-1.
 

prime minister

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I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I'd take the Orbit over pretty well any other sub-200 turntable. The used TT market has gotten so silly, that I'd take the easy, basic and reliable Orbit. Take it out of the box and you are ready to go. Even the cartridge is aligned properly. Plus, you get instructions and manufacturers support. What a pain free, stress way to enjoy vinyl.
 

JohnVF

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I just have a personal hatred of low-torque belt drive tables and unipivot arms. :) But I agree, its a great turn-key solution to start out with. The "standard mount" turntable cartridge is the worst thing imaginable from a consumer standpoint. It's absurd to think the average person should just randomly know how to align and balance an arm to the degree necessary to get the best sound out of it. But..that's another discussion.
 

prime minister

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Actually, its the same discussion. :)

I think it's ridiculous that in 2015, you still have to dick around with alignment tools on turntables. It's one of the truly stupid things in this hobby.

It's one of the reasons I like the Orbit. It will sound better then most turntables, because its actually set up right. No audiophile suffering. Just spin some vinyl.
 

prime minister

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To clarify what I'm thinking of for this system, it is not meant as an entry level or starter system. It's just a system. Something you can put together and just enjoy as much music as possible for the next ten years, if the purchaser desires it.

This forum is not about competitive audiophilia.
 

JohnVF

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The biggest change the entire hobby could go through were to be if it actually embraced ease of use and good product design instead of what we get, which is increasing complexity and tweakable minutia. I think that would apply to all levels of price.
 

prime minister

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That's why I embraced the D3020 so enthusiastically. It's actually very well thought out piece of equipment for today's uses. Easy to use. Easy to setup. I love the fact that it streams Bluetooth right from my phone. What could be easier or more usable?
 

JohnVF

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A more expensive all-in-one option, the PS Audio Sprout. Has DAC and MM phono pre as well as being an integrated amplifier. I haven't heard it yet...but I probably could have started with this or something like this and been happy for a long time.
 

prime minister

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JohnVF;n235 said:
A more expensive all-in-one option, the PS Audio Sprout. Has DAC and MM phono pre as well as being an integrated amplifier. I haven't heard it yet...but I probably could have started with this or something like this and been happy for a long time.

Very nice. I'll have to give one of those a listen. What's the price on them?
 

JohnVF

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It's $799....so not exactly entry level but given that it has a DAC and phono pre, I still think its a good deal if it sounds good.
 

JohnVF

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That's nice looking. I actually need something like that...I have two DAC/pres and three systems that need them. I need another but it doesn't need to be the crazy audiophile ones like my other two.
 

el84bill

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Hahahaha....I am living this. Doorway system is about all have room for at the moment. Musical Paradise Mp 302 amp/dac...Mission M72 monitors, and Laptop/Media Monkey with 35,728 files...I'm thinking an amp of some sort in order soon...we'll have to see what available locally. Cheers!
 

Hartge7

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I can't learn all this new stuff. A doorway system I had a few years ago, a one button, tunes were playing was a recapped HK 330c and a pair of decent bookshelf speakers. TT or tape were not hooked up as this was a quick on system to enjoy David Dye and his World Cafe show on XPN. The main rig is a number of switches to turn on and a sequence is needed. That new stuff looks to be a modern replacement for that HK system.
 

dsnyder0cnn

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I could probably be very happy with this small system for ten years (although I'd miss the LF extension that I currently enjoy):

<center><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0><tr><th colspan=2><a href="http://www.musicdirect.com/p-276032-ifi-retro-stereo-system.aspx">iFi RETRO LS3.5 monitors and RETRO Stereo 50</a></th></tr><tr><td><a href="http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/retro-ls-3-5/" border=0><img src="http://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Retro_LS35_Main-453x327.png"></a></td><td><a href="http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/retro-stereo-50/" border=0><img src="http://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/STEREO50111-453x327.png"></a></td></tr></table></center>
To this, just add an <a href="http://www.amazon.com/HP-Stream-200-010-Mini-Desktop/dp/B00R7R1GWK/">HP Stream mini PC</a> and subscriptions to <a href="http://roonlabs.com/">roon</a> and <a href="http://tidal.com/">TIDAL HiFi</a> and you have lossless streaming of roughly three million albums. There's actually an excellent phono preamp in the Stereo 50, so add a decent table too and you're set!
 

billfort

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Good call ds! I love this package, especially the size, styling, EL84 tube amp and built in iDSD (!) DAC to play your digital. I might use different speakers (maybe...) but I bet hooking this up to a PC and feeding it all your digital as DSD128 would make for a killer system - even has a headphone out and phono stage if so inclined.

If shopping in this snack bracket I'd look real serious at this.
 
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