The Fat of the Land

John Frum

Secret Society Member
I can't help but thinking that somewhere there's an old tube-organ forum ranting and raving about the audio guys who destroy all of their beloved treasures for the tubes and amps within :)

Yeah, it’ll get some people’s blood up for sure. And certainly, there will be differing opinions on whether a given piece is or isn’t worth saving. But when it comes to midcentury parlor organs (or dilapidated stereo consoles, or busted reel to reels), the supply far exceeds the number of people who will give them house space, let alone refurb or maintain them, and even the most diehard preservationist has to admit that the number that falls to hifi nerds bent on destruction pales before the number that will languish before simply being sent to the dump.
 

JohnVF

Administrator
Staff member
Yeah, it’ll get some people’s blood up for sure. And certainly, there will be differing opinions on whether a given piece is or isn’t worth saving. But when it comes to midcentury parlor organs (or dilapidated stereo consoles, or busted reel to reels), the supply far exceeds the number of people who will give them house space, let alone refurb or maintain them, and even the most diehard preservationist has to admit that the number that falls to hifi nerds bent on destruction pales before the number that will languish before simply being sent to the dump.
No doubt. I'm definitely not one of those "everything old is sacred" folks, not even in regards to hi-fi gear. I admit to pulling tubes from cheap tubed HI-FI GEAR and then tossing the carcass. "That could have been saved!" Yeah, and it would have resulted in mediocre sound for whoever saved it when there is far better stuff out there worth spending time and money on. Audio darwinism.
 

mhardy6647

Señor Member
I can't help but thinking that somewhere there's an old tube-organ forum ranting and raving about the audio guys who destroy all of their beloved treasures for the tubes and amps within :)
The Symmetry Principle.
:)

Puts me to mind of an old Steven Wright bit (did I mention that I love Steven Wright's shtick? Anyone who knows/remembers his comedy likely wouldn't find this surprising)

In my house there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from a woman in Madagascar. She said, "Cut it out."
(FWIW, I remember the woman as being from Germany, but - given the average person's knowledge of geography in 2020 - close enough)

 

adaug

Awaiting Updated Member Status.
...and it would have resulted in mediocre sound for whoever saved it when there is far better stuff out there worth spending time and money on. Audio darwinism.

another great concept. get the weak gear out of the gene pool. audio darwinism!
 

JohnVF

Administrator
Staff member
another great concept. get the weak gear out of the gene pool. audio darwinism!
But if I'm actively out there destroying what I think is bad, that's audio eugenics and that raises a lot of audio morality questions. Should not the gear be allowed to live to and survive on its own accord? Who am I to decide? Oh whatever I just wanted the tubes and didn't want to deal with audio dumpster divers over a $25 carcass sale.
 

Thermionics

Post Whore In Training
But if I'm actively out there destroying what I think is bad, that's audio eugenics and that raises a lot of audio morality questions. Should not the gear be allowed to live to and survive on its own accord? Who am I to decide? Oh whatever I just wanted the tubes and didn't want to deal with audio dumpster divers over a $25 carcass sale.
Example: the transformers in a Sony TC500A reel-to-reel are much better use as the basis of a 2A3 amp...or a Dynaco SCA35 is much better off being scavenged for its iron (and power tubes) to build a far-superior Stereo 35 amplifier.
 

paulbottlehead

Active Member
the supply far exceeds the number of people who will give them house space, let alone refurb or maintain them
Yeah, I watched the boss replace all of the wax caps on a Hammond organ one time. I can't imagine what I would have to charge to make a job like that sensible from a labor perspective. It's totally worth it for the top 1-2% of the tube organs out there, but not so much for the rest of them.
 

adaug

Awaiting Updated Member Status.
But if I'm actively out there destroying what I think is bad, that's audio eugenics and that raises a lot of audio morality questions. Should not the gear be allowed to live to and survive on its own accord? Who am I to decide? Oh whatever I just wanted the tubes and didn't want to deal with audio dumpster divers over a $25 carcass sale.

you are right. and the organs are actually organ donors.
 

mhardy6647

Señor Member
ship all iron to @Redboy.
preferably collect.

🧐

you are right. and the organs are actually organ donors.
That's so meta, dude.

🤭

EDIT: Oh, this thread has given me a half a mind to drag out an HP event counter thing I have downstairs and take a photo of it. It's quite large, quite heavy, and essentially useless. It does have a bunch of tubes in it. I have never managed to even open it up and see what kinds of tubes are in it.

It probably goes without saying that I found it on the scrap metal pile at the ol' Harvard (MA) town dump and it followed me home years ago. Fossilized mud dauber (wasp) nests and all. Yup, I dutifully packed it up and moved it to NH when the time came.
Why? I hear you ask.
umm...
 

Thermionics

Post Whore In Training
I have a 9:00 AM appointment to buy a Roberts RTR that will immediately have its stereo SEP power amp extracted.
I've got one of those projects sitting on my shelf. Let me know what circuit you decide to go with as I may shamelessly plagiarize.
 

mhardy6647

Señor Member
You know -- we're gonna get to the pearly gates, and there're gonna be all these barren chassis and 1B3 rectifiers and 6AL5s and Twist-Lok capacitors gazing disdainfully at us from the Other Side...
 
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