The 2022 Jeep Grand Wagoneer's McIntosh audio system is the best I've heard
McIntosh steps up big with the 2022 Jeep Grand Wagoneer's in-car audio system.
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Oh I can’t believe they even included the blue meters
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My surprise with the new Grand Wagoneer was not the blue meters. It was rather that you could drop over $100k for a regular production Jeep.
There are three of 'em sitting in a row at the local Jeep dealer, and they've been there for (at least) several weeks. They may not all be 100 kilobuck morphs of this model, but I'll bet they are. At the least, the one with the 1960s-style "bright" trim around the side windows must be.
My point (if I have one) being that perhaps they're not, umm, flying off the dealers' shelves, metaphorically speaking. Blue meters or not.
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Reportedly because of a chip shortage, but that may be the corporate spin machine at work.There are three of 'em sitting in a row at the local Jeep dealer, and they've been there for (at least) several weeks. They may not all be 100 kilobuck morphs of this model, but I'll bet they are. At the least, the one with the 1960s-style "bright" trim around the side windows must be.
My point (if I have one) being that perhaps they're not, umm, flying off the dealers' shelves, metaphorically speaking. Blue meters or not.
Stellantis to cut shift at Warren plant that makes Jeep Wagoneer, Ram Classic
Full-time employees will be deployed to other shifts, while supplemental workers will see their hours cut, according to the company.
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That would be the Grand Wagoneer L
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How about something that doesn’t require a subscription.Reportedly because of a chip shortage, but that may be the corporate spin machine at work.
Stellantis to cut shift at Warren plant that makes Jeep Wagoneer, Ram Classic
Full-time employees will be deployed to other shifts, while supplemental workers will see their hours cut, according to the company.www.detroitnews.com
Stellantis Eliminates The Third Shift At Its Warren Truck Assembly Plant!
Stellantis has announced that it will be cutting the third shift at its Warren Truck Assembly Plant (WTAP) in Michigan. The plant currently produces the Jeep® Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer (WS) and the Ram 1500 Classic (DS) with a workforce of 5,523 employees (5,239 hourly; 284 salaried).
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Best I can tell, Jeep has resurrected the famed Wagoneer brand which, in original form was a full sized 4WD utility vehicle, opposite Chevy Suburban. Woodie sides on some, as recall. I checked one out while at the dealer on other biz. $118K. God bless America.
This year Jeep rolled out the WL generation of Grande Cherokee to replace the long-in-the-tooth WK series. I heard an interview with the project manager, who described a bottom-up redesign with the goal of asserting Jeep's rep in that part of the market, actually off-road capable SUVs.
We've had several Jeeps. Liked 'em OK, but just OK. Utility, good in snow, but that's about it. But when my wife took a new Grand Cherokee Limited for a spin, she fell head over heels. Immediately forgot about the Caddy XT5 I figured she'd buy. More capable for our deep snow winters and, surprisingly, rather more comfortable and quiet. The thing remains remarkably composed, poised even, when you drive it really hard, and on rough roads, and off. It feels very different from anything I've ever driven. A few active tricks, I'm guessing, but haven't taken the interest to look into it. You can certainly tell that the electric power steering is responding to speed and your selection of drive mode: Snow/Sand/Auto/Sport. The steering is remarkably precise, without being even a little bit twitchy, or demanding. Body roll in very hard cornering seems spookily flat, and weight balance seems better than it must actually be, doesn't want to understeer. It takes an awful lot to edge it into four wheel drift. I really can't explain it, don't really care, but enjoy it.
Our local guy is selling them as fast as he can get them. Our winters, the 400 foot driveways, no problem. But the longer L variant with 3rd row seating, less so. And, yeah, that huge Wagoneer is still waiting for a home.
I hate to say this, but if you'd told me five years ago I'd be spending in the fifties, I'd'a spit on the floor. Now, shrug, I figger it could'a been worse. Thankfully, I was unaware of the McIntosh option, accepted the std. Alpine. Don't care, never listen to music while driving.
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How does that commercial go? Jeep Grand Cherokee -$50,000 +, a happy wife - priceless.Best I can tell, Jeep has resurrected the famed Wagoneer brand which, in original form was a full sized 4WD utility vehicle, opposite Chevy Suburban. Woodie sides on some, as recall. I checked one out while at the dealer on other biz. $118K. God bless America.
This year Jeep rolled out the WL generation of Grande Cherokee to replace the long-in-the-tooth WK series. I heard an interview with the project manager, who described a bottom-up redesign with the goal of asserting Jeep's rep in that part of the market, actually off-road capable SUVs.
We've had several Jeeps. Liked 'em OK, but just OK. Utility, good in snow, but that's about it. But when my wife took a new Grand Cherokee Limited for a spin, she fell head over heels. Immediately forgot about the Caddy XT5 I figured she'd buy. More capable for our deep snow winters and, surprisingly, rather more comfortable and quiet. The thing remains remarkably composed, poised even, when you drive it really hard, and on rough roads, and off. It feels very different from anything I've ever driven. A few active tricks, I'm guessing, but haven't taken the interest to look into it. You can certainly tell that the electric power steering is responding to speed and your selection of drive mode: Snow/Sand/Auto/Sport. The steering is remarkably precise, without being even a little bit twitchy, or demanding. Body roll in very hard cornering seems spookily flat, and weight balance seems better than it must actually be, doesn't want to understeer. It takes an awful lot to edge it into four wheel drift. I really can't explain it, don't really care, but enjoy it.
Our local guy is selling them as fast as he can get them. Our winters, the 400 foot driveways, no problem. But the longer L variant with 3rd row seating, less so. And, yeah, that huge Wagoneer is still waiting for a home.
I hate to say this, but if you'd told me five years ago I'd be spending in the fifties, I'd'a spit on the floor. Now, shrug, I figger it could'a been worse. Thankfully, I was unaware of the McIntosh option, accepted the std. Alpine. Don't care, never listen to music while driving.
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Yeah, that's the new Grand Wagoneer. It looks quite Suburban-esque (i.e., quite derivative of the Suburban), at least to me.
I'm all over it, blue meters for sure, if I win either the Mega Millions, or Powerball jackpot this weekend, each of which is now well north of $400 million.
I'm thinkin that Jeep Grand Wagoneer is positioned against Escalade.
Yup and the Range Rover too, whose new model starts at $104,500.
There seems to be a strange price inversion going on. A pal has had offers for his 3 year old pickup, above the price he paid. I've seen used Subarus going for more than the original sticker. My dealer offered to buy back the 1 year old company van, for a gain. So what's the problem buying a nice car if it retains its value. Just me, the dummy, I'd've been big money ahead if I'd moved my mad-money portfolio into pickup truck a year ago. One went up, the other down. Way down. Hmmm....if you buy a vehicle, put 20K mi. on it, then break even on selling it, is that not an non taxable gain? Just sayin'
They do. Aerodynamics is ruining car design.The headlight area reminded me of a Camaro. So I google imaged 2022 Camaro, and with a vertical stretch and a few minor changes, not much different. As has been mentioned by others, most common vehicles are all kinda starting to look the same.
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Yes, it is. Prepandemic our vehicle integration group would routinely bring in competitive vehicles and line them up to have us compare them with our vehicles. They would park the vehicles on the ground floor in the main circular hub of our complex. Looking down from the 4th floor where my office was, it was nearly impossible to tell one SUV from the next. The only real noticeable differentiation being the grill on each vehicle.
The one that (arguably*) started it all, though, still looks pretty cool.
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* Yeah, yeah, I know... there was the Chrysler Airflow, and the Cord 810... but work with me, here!
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The one that (arguably*) started it all, though, still looks pretty cool.
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* Yeah, yeah, I know... there was the Chrysler Airflow, and the Cord 810... but work with me, here!
Don't forget the Pacer.
'Go ahead and laugh. We'll wait. Finished? The AMC Pacer was the laughingstock of Detroit's malaise-era cars, but it was pretty slick in the wind tunnel. It's got a Cd of 0.32, making it more aerodynamic than the Lamborghini Murcielago, Ferrari F430 and the Aston Martin DB9. Of course, the designers of those cars sacrificed aerodynamic efficiency to minimize lift, a tradeoff you don't have to make with a Pacer."
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