Ultrasonic record cleaners and solutions

MrEd

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As @adaug suggested...
Let's start a thread for ultrasonic cleaning.
Equipment, solutions, experiences.
I just got this machine in the link.
I have not set it up yet .
Looking for folks experience with cleaning solutions and methods.
 
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@MrEd , I’ll be following this thread and your experience with this machine in particular. Nice!
 
As I wrote in the other thread. I tried some different mixtures at different strengths and seemed like I spent a lot of time rinsing to get the suds off the record.

Got the Degritter solution and made up a few gallons. Single rinse is all it seems to need. Vinyl look fantastic and feels silky when I hit is with a carbon brush after the clean. Actually could probably just stick on a drying rack without a rinse/vacuum dry step. Really haven't seen any suds when rinsing.

Seems like a nice solution for the money. Spent quite a bit more 5 years ago, but also opted for get a higher frequency unit at 80Khz.

Be careful on the temp too hot may warp your vinyl. I have mine set around 30 degC.
 
As @adaug suggested...
Let's start a thread for ultrasonic cleaning.
Equipment, solutions, experiences.
I just got this machine in the link.
I have not set it up yet .
Looking for folks experience with cleaning solutions and methods.
Ha, I was just looking at this one yesterday.
 
I will give. It some time this coming weekend.
I can say so for that comes with almost zero instructions.
Tuned in.
I’m guessing it was just repurpose technology and whoever thought of it didn’t think through the instruction portion.🤷‍♂️
 
I bought a Happybuy (same thing) off Amazon back in August this makes me really want to finally try it.
 
I use a cheap generic ultrasonic tank (probably the same as the Vevor) and a CleanerVinyl rotating thing. I got it a few years ago before they started upscaling their products, but mine is roughly the equivalent of the Easy 6. I can clean up to six albums at a time without problem. Anything that reliably turns vinyl slowly is a winner.

I typically use 6 drops of Tergikleen and pre-run and pre-heat the tank to ~30˚C. I rotate LPs at approximately one-quarter speed, something like one rotation every 30-ish seconds.

After cleaning, I rinse each LP through a cheap SpinClean knockoff. I own a SpinClean and specifically use the cheap imitation because I do not want to clean the vinyl but rather rinse it. I let the vinyl air dry in a plastic dish rack for at least six hours, longer when possible.

I refuse to go down the magic ingredient path because the microscopic bubbles do most of the cleaning; surfectants and cleaning liquids make it work more effectively, that is all. If the first pass does not work, I run the vinyl through a second or third time. I use supermarket "distilled" water. I use quotes because it is probably ozonated rather than truly distilled. I do not care about fancy water, I just want it to be mostly mineral-free.

One extra thing: I use an old Brita tank with cheap (or used) filters to clean the used cleaning fluid. I store the cleaned fluid in plastic water jugs and note the date when used. I keep them in a dark, cool place. I have re-used solution three times with identical results.

A few years ago, I cleaned all of my vinyl. It took a few months, but it was worth it. There were a few LPs that were transformed from barely listenable to fully enjoyable without pops and extraneous noise. The Degritter had just come out and was (is still) ridiculously expensive, and I was nearly finished with my collection, so I stuck with the inexpensive setup. It is a bit more of a hassle than newer all-in-one solutions, but ultrasonic is definitely the way to go regardless. If I were shopping now, I would look at the HumminGuru very closely.

I now run new vinyl through the cleaner before playing. I recently got some Blue Note reissues and was gobsmacked at how dirty they were fresh out of the sleeve. I know most LPs are not very clean from new, but the amount of crap drained from the tank was surprising.

An example of the transormative power of microscopic bubbles: I have an old Prestige Moodsville LP (Number 6 with Red Garland Trio if you must know) that arrived with weird crap on it; I tried cleaning it multiple times with the SpinClean and it still sounded terrible. It got better after running through the ultrasonic setup, but it was still noisy. I think I ended up cleaning it at least ten times ultrasonically and it now is a very good-sounding LP. In fact, I just now put it on to make sure and it sounds beautiful.

The point is that most vinyl can be cleaned multiple times ultrasonically with little negative impact.
 
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I tried a run with just distilled water, records look good, but one still had some static on play. It was a new record about a year old.
A used Steely Dan record sounded better than before but still had some noise.
I just filled the tank 50/50 distilled water and my 311mix.
Time will tell.
I can say I find the rack for drying that comes with this pretty useful and better than the dish rack I've been using.
 
I'm listening to a Clapton live record I had not be playing much because of noise.
It went through two 30 minute cycles with my 311 mix ( 1 part denatured alcohol, 1 drop Triton X, 3 parts distilled water ).
Plays wonderfully 😊
 
be careful about that high concentration of alcohol. I becomes flammable when aerosolized by the US cleaner.
 
be careful about that high concentration of alcohol. I becomes flammable when aerosolized by the US cleaner.
Aware , but I don't think my 1 part to 3 parts of water is over the top... Do correct me if I'm wrong.. I 've been know to be a fairly dangerous guy... mostly inflicted on myself 😆
 
Well, the resident record cleaning expert PACVR said this about me using 50ml in 1400mls in my Degritter.
"Note that 150ml to 200ml IPA in a water tank of 1400 ml = 10.7 to 14.3% is classified (by the NFPA) as flammable with flashpoint of 100F to 95F. Given that the Degritter is not designed (nor certified) to operate with a flammable fluid, I honestly think that Degritter missed the risk they addressed and if they understood would say otherwise."
Degritter Users
 
Picked up a Humminguru, and so far so good.

I tried about 4 LP's today, smooth sailing. Method I will use:
* if album is already fairly clean (i.e. new ones, or ones that never got too dirty) I'll just go straight to HG with 4% IPA / 96% DW
* if I find used albums that are dirty, I'll hand clean them with surfactant mixture, then I'll do a rinse round in HG like previous (new albums)

First thing I noticed is how silent and more dynamic the records were after the HG.


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Mr Ed, I bought ( well wifey gave it to me for xmas ) Identical machine. Still havent tested it, BUT highly regarded in the trade.
LOTS of uchoob videos using identical machine. I will be using Liquinox Critical component cleaner.
I get it from USA for about $15 Au a US quart. Its normally used to clean internal hard drive parts, medical operating theatre tools and equipment.

Its no phosphate, no suds, soap in effect. Its main purpose is to become a "wetting solution " to deplete the surface tension of the water.

Its from USA, should cost you pennies. You cant go wrong.
I use it already in my VPI vacuum cleaner, and it leaves their ( expensive ) soap for dead.
One quart makes 100 quarts of usable product. Its diluted 100:1.

Joe
 
@MrEd
Been using a similar setup for a couple of year, the thread on AK in the stickies about using the same is the best I’ve come across…

Mine works extremely well, have cleaned up some noisy used albums that made night & day type improvements, one had to be cleaned 3 x to get there….

Andy
 
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