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Hunting For The Second Best Turntable In The World
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I actually really like the LP12. But.....
It just seems there is so much to the LP12 ownership experience. Most of which I can’t be bothered with.
Is the TTS-8000 an AC motor also like @fiddlefye 's DP80?
well... umm... yeah. I can't afford any of the fancy ones... and the 2251 here kinda found me (courtesy of a local guru).
Not to come off as snooty. But you may have to go to the eXclusive to match a GT.
I believe it is AC also, yes.
I think there's something about how the AC motor functions (vs. DC motor)...my empirical mind tells me this may be analogous to directly heated triodes sounding more musical heated with AC filaments. Admittedly, I prefer this type of "distortion". 😊
That must have been about 5-6 years ago, so the details have faded... but I remember being quite impressed, and perceived it to be quieter than my Sony PS-x700 which in theory has ever so slightly better specs, but in practice, seems to have more rumble.
I will say that the automated biotracer arm is much appreciated by other members of the family.
www.thevintageknob.org
www.thevintageknob.org
I will say that the automated biotracer arm is much appreciated by other members of the family.
Sony PS-X600 on thevintageknob.org
vintage Sony turntable with 3rd generation Biotracer tonearm - bestseller
Sony PS-X700 on thevintageknob.org
vintage Sony turntable with 2nd generation Biotracer tonearm, X'Tal lock and BSL motor
Now... and I am just sayin' this, mind you*... I know a guy. This guy, in general, is a bit disdainful of most DD tts. But the motors in those early Sony "TTS" DD tts... those he says... are something special. They (he says) do not cog. More to the point... he says... you can hear the difference (in output quality) between one of those Sonys... and... umm... most of the usual Japanese DD tt suspects (i.e., be it the lack of cogging or unicorn dust or whatever...).
All I can say is the one I have sounds awfully good -- and my hifi colleague (and member here, for reference sake) @forkliftman15 (who set the one up that I have for me) opined "I guess that's what they call a black background" when we fired it up (some time ago, now).
I listened to Side Two of Abbey Road** on it last night, and it did sound good (and it wasn't even a high-zoot pressing thereof... I just pulled out the orange "Capitol" label pressing I bought in the late 1970s 'cause it was handy and I knew it was in good condition).
As an aside, there are a lot of copies of Abbey Road here -- for which there is no logical explanation.
I guess this doesn't help much, does it?
Oh, well... I enjoy practicing my typing, and using italics.
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* On the "plus" side, I heard this guy say this out loud... as opposed to reading it on the internet.
** Which, at this late date, I think just might be my single favorite pop/rock album side, full stop.
*** Oh, and ellipses (or is that ellipsises?)... I like to get practice using those, too...
There was a brief listing for an SL-1200 Mk II locally... missing dustcover, seemingly damaged power switch, looked like the tonearm tube had been torn clean off. The ask was ...... $700. Ah, Kijiji.
Pio PL 70/2 is a stable rotor motor table, pretty much all of the chops of the Ex P/10. It is an incredibly worthy table. A few did manage to make it to the N. American market, but mostly are sold from Japan, 100V.
That must have been about 5-6 years ago, so the details have faded... but I remember being quite impressed, and perceived it to be quieter than my Sony PS-x700 which in theory has ever so slightly better specs, but in practice, seems to have more rumble.
I will say that the automated biotracer arm is much appreciated by other members of the family.
Sony PS-X600 on thevintageknob.org
vintage Sony turntable with 3rd generation Biotracer tonearm - bestsellerSony PS-X700 on thevintageknob.org
vintage Sony turntable with 2nd generation Biotracer tonearm, X'Tal lock and BSL motor
I have a PS-X600 in pretty much mint condition, it is a beautiful table in person. Unfortunately, there is some gremlin (I believe in the arm servo circuit) that causes a very high pitched whine to come through the RCA cables once the mute circuit shuts off. This makes it impossible to use, as it can be heard through the music. Hopefully one day I’ll get it fixed. The Sony servo tonearms are, unfortunately, notorious for issues like that now that they’re around 40 years old.
@ prime minister: Did you eventually buy a vintage turntable to your liking?
Going back to the infamous Linn Sondek LP12: Way over-priced because of its heritage. I had the Ariston RD-80, which is closely-related to the LP12. It had a Grado M2+ cartridge and ADC ALT-1 tonearm.
And a video of it playing:
Nando.
Going back to the infamous Linn Sondek LP12: Way over-priced because of its heritage. I had the Ariston RD-80, which is closely-related to the LP12. It had a Grado M2+ cartridge and ADC ALT-1 tonearm.
And a video of it playing:
Nando.
I did.
'I went the Kenwood route again. KD-990/KP-1100. Still getting it running right.
I do love, and have always wanted, a LP-12. I had an Ariston, which should have scratched that itch, but man, there are some pretty Linns out there.
Like you, I was looking for a step-up from my current main turntables: Pioneer PL-630 and Mitsubishi LT-30. Last July, I bought a beautiful Pioneer PL-70 without a cartridge or head shell. I demoed the turntable at the seller's home with one of the cartridges (MM) he had on hand through a Carver preamp. Really impressed with it. I had been gathering pieces up for it in the past few months to get it set up the way I wanted. I have been playing it, in the meantime, in a secondary audio system.
Nando.
Nando.
Darn handsome table that there PL70, darn handsome.
Like brother fiddlefye I’m a bit partial to Denons. My 2nd best table is my Denon DP80 with the original Denon step-down transformer and if the 1/3rd of a prog rock group hadn’t dropped in my lap, the Denon DP80 would still hold pride of place.
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