Anybody "modeled" their listening room in the GIK Room Acoustics Visualizer?

Thanks, I was going to build my own as that was going to be the much cheaper route until I happened upon an insanely good deal on a full 27X30 setup of GIK acoustic treatments, so I went that route and am very happy with the results.


Audiofreak71
That's awsome.
Every time I added a piece to my room the change for the better, clarity and sound stage always improved.
Nice work.
 
That's awsome.
Every time I added a piece to my room the change for the better, clarity and sound stage always improved.
Nice work.
Thanks, yes I’ve noticed that as well. I’m curious as to how my room will measure now with these room treatments in place, will be interesting but so far my ears tell me that it’s a huge improvement.


Audiofreak71
 
Glad you got a great deal! I was looking used panels for my room, but ended up building my own absorption panels, both for wall and bass trap. I had a local guy build me some of the Decware Quadratic diffusers.

I almost just bought it all from GIK, but at over $2k for my room, I couldn't quite get there.

It's simply a must for anyone taking this seriously. It's helped my room tremendously.
 
Glad you got a great deal! I was looking used panesl for my room, but ended up building my own absorption panels, both for wall and bass trap. I had a local guy build me some of the Decware Quadratic diffusers.

I almost just bought it all from GIK, but at over $2k for my room, I couldn't quite get there.

It's simply a must for anyone taking this seriously. It's helped my room tremendously.
You are 100% correct and whether you DIY or buy acoustic treatments are an absolute must and a game changer.


Audiofreak71
 
@Audiofreak71 Wow, nice haul! I'd be tempted to put every single piece in my room and it would be so over-treated as to sound like a [insert your favorite inappropriate analogy here]. I'm sure you'll get the right balance. ;)

On my end, I somehow forgot about this thread. And interesting... since the catastrophic plaster failure in 2021, I actually re-did my room based exactly on the mock-up I originally sketched here!

Notes:
- I've said it before, but the lack of stuff makes the room a little bigger; I have no complaints.
- The modeler doesn't account for the ceiling slopes I have here, oh well.
- Both "before" and "after" sketches have one additional item omitted in the corner between the purple desk and the door, but no biggie?
- Obviously treatments aren't part of what I modeled, but I may add in what I've done so far, just because.

Before:

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And after:

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@Audiofreak71 Wow, nice haul! I'd be tempted to put every single piece in my room and it would be so over-treated as to sound like a [insert your favorite inappropriate analogy here]. I'm sure you'll get the right balance. ;)

On my end, I somehow forgot about this thread. And interesting... since the catastrophic plaster failure in 2021, I actually re-did my room based exactly on the mock-up I originally sketched here!

Notes:
- I've said it before, but the lack of stuff makes the room a little bigger; I have no complaints.
- The modeler doesn't account for the ceiling slopes I have here, oh well.
- Both "before" and "after" sketches have one additional item omitted in the corner between the purple desk and the door, but no biggie?
- Obviously treatments aren't part of what I modeled, but I may add in what I've done so far, just because.

Before:

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And after:

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Thanks!. Actually when placed in the optimal spots it’s not over kill at all. At first I thought I might have gone overboard but I ended up using all pieces except 2 bass traps that weren’t needed. With all the diffraction, absorbers and bass traps in place my room sounds much bigger than 27X17 so it worked out well.

Looks like your room is a good one and treatments will go a long way in there.


Audiofreak71
 
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When I visited an audio manufacturer back in early May, their listening room #1 had a lot of treatments of various kinds. It is a mix of absorbers (including bass traps) and diffusers. I didn't find out the details behind it, but I'd say it was one of the best rooms I've ever heard.

That is where a consultation with GIK would help, as they would recommend where to place all of the various items, and what types (absorption, diffusion, etc.). Depending on where we end up, I will probably take it further and see what they recommend for my room. Right now I lack space, including empty wall space, so it's a moot point and my system will keep on sounding like hot garbage.
 
When I visited an audio manufacturer back in early May, their listening room #1 had a lot of treatments of various kinds. It is a mix of absorbers (including bass traps) and diffusers. I didn't find out the details behind it, but I'd say it was one of the best rooms I've ever heard.

That is where a consultation with GIK would help, as they would recommend where to place all of the various items, and what types (absorption, diffusion, etc.). Depending on where we end up, I will probably take it further and see what they recommend for my room. Right now I lack space, including empty wall space, so it's a moot point and my system will keep on sounding like hot garbage.


That’s exactly what I did, I consulted with GIK to find out all I would need for my room. I sent them pictures of my room, the size and square footage. They put that in their computer and came up with what I’ve got, although the two extra bass traps can be used they’re not really needed. My room has had a mock setup of room treatments since we recently (ish) moved into this house, my system had been professionally calibrated via Dirac live and once I placed the panels, traps etc in my room it elevated the quality ten fold.


Audiofreak71
 
That’s exactly what I did, I consulted with GIK to find out all I would need for my room. I sent them pictures of my room, the size and square footage. They put that in their computer and came up with what I’ve got, although the two extra bass traps can be used they’re not really needed. My room has had a mock setup of room treatments since we recently (ish) moved into this house, my system had been professionally calibrated via Dirac live and once I placed the panels, traps etc in my room it elevated the quality ten fold.


Audiofreak71
Who did the room calibration for you?
 
My dedicated listening room was designed from the beginning with a cathedral ceiling with large beams in that space in order to randomize waves bouncing off that surface which works extremely well, especially in the bass. But the visualizer doesn't support that, which is a glaring and stupid omission.
 
I have an Army battle Buddy who is a certified Dirac live calibration guy, he was a Commo guy like me and was one of my NCO’s.


Audiofreak71
That’s a great resource and I am sure he was well compensated with good libations and such. I was a Parachute Rigger in the Army.
 
My dedicated listening room was designed from the beginning with a cathedral ceiling with large beams in that space in order to randomize waves bouncing off that surface which works extremely well, especially in the bass. But the visualizer doesn't support that, which is a glaring and stupid omission.
An online tool isn't going to have parameters for every single situation in a listening room--it would make their tool needlessly complex and require too much code to use online (it would not perform well in a browser, in other words). But if you fill out the basic floor plan in the visualizer and contact one of their advisors with the rest of the dimensions and/or send some photos, they would be able to recommend something based on that and whatever else you tell them. They have worked in all sorts of spaces (studios, presentation rooms, theaters, public spaces, etc.) aside from audiophile listening rooms. @DC has an upper level with sloped portions of the ceiling (similar to our bungalow, where the upstairs bedroom has similar ceiling slopes) and it doesn't allow for that either. My situation is also somewhat unusual (a good portion of the wall opens into the kitchen) so there are all sorts of parameters happening here which require explanation beyond the visualizer.

FWIW, I've actually found it easier to lay out my room's floor plan in Visio using simple shapes--for me (experienced in Visio) it's a smoother and more intuitive experience. Not so much for sound treatment, but to find a way to rearrange the room so I can gain more space.
 
That’s a great resource and I am sure he was well compensated with good libations and such. I was a Parachute Rigger in the Army.
He is for sure! When he comes into town I always take him to lunch and dinner, he stays at my house and we catch up and talk about old times.

That’s awesome, when I was stationed at Ft. Wainwright (98-01) I was in 172inf BFD 562nd Engineer Company and they used to jump out the back of C-17’s I was Commo so I video taped it all , no jumping for this guy lol.


Audiofreak71
 
He is for sure! When he comes into town I always take him to lunch and dinner, he stays at my house and we catch up and talk about old times.

That’s awesome, when I was stationed at Ft. Wainwright (98-01) I was in 172inf BFD 562nd Engineer Company and they used to jump out the back of C-17’s I was Commo so I video taped it all , no jumping for this guy lol.


Audiofreak71
I hear you. Their is truly no good sense in jumping out of a perfectly good plane. But when you need to get forces in place in a hurry…..ooh….ahh…Airborne!
 
My dedicated listening room was designed from the beginning with a cathedral ceiling with large beams in that space in order to randomize waves bouncing off that surface which works extremely well, especially in the bass. But the visualizer doesn't support that, which is a glaring and stupid omission.

You can't be serious?
 
An online tool isn't going to have parameters for every single situation in a listening room--it would make their tool needlessly complex and require too much code to use online (it would not perform well in a browser, in other words). But if you fill out the basic floor plan in the visualizer and contact one of their advisors with the rest of the dimensions and/or send some photos, they would be able to recommend something based on that and whatever else you tell them. They have worked in all sorts of spaces (studios, presentation rooms, theaters, public spaces, etc.) aside from audiophile listening rooms. @DC has an upper level with sloped portions of the ceiling (similar to our bungalow, where the upstairs bedroom has similar ceiling slopes) and it doesn't allow for that either. My situation is also somewhat unusual (a good portion of the wall opens into the kitchen) so there are all sorts of parameters happening here which require explanation beyond the visualizer.

FWIW, I've actually found it easier to lay out my room's floor plan in Visio using simple shapes--for me (experienced in Visio) it's a smoother and more intuitive experience. Not so much for sound treatment, but to find a way to rearrange the room so I can gain more space.
I'm not in the market for acoustic treatments - I have my room dialed in as-is. I take exception to your 'too much code' excuse. I'm a programmer - the 'too much code' excuse is pretty lame.
 
I'm not in the market for acoustic treatments - I have my room dialed in as-is. I take exception to your 'too much code' excuse. I'm a programmer - the 'too much code' excuse is pretty lame.
OK, whatever. Having done development myself for 25 years, I know that running anything within a browser is going to be sluggish. And you claim to not need acoustic treatments but decided to troll this thread anyway with your post?

Welcome to my report button, and my ignore list.
 
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