Electric Dodge Charger Daytona!

[prime minister]

I believe that there are very many folks talking about this and there are been many interesting articles written on this very subject.

How Electric Vehicles Could Fix the Electrical Grid

Local governments and policymakers are anxious about the U.S. grid’s ability to withstand ever-increasing demand. Consumers could hold the key to an untapped resource.

news.columbia.edu

Electricity Grids Can Handle Electric Vehicles Easily – They Just Need Proper Management

One of the most frequent concerns you will see from electric vehicle haters is that the electricity grid can’t possibly cope with all cars becoming EVs. However, they haven’t done the math properly. The grids in most developed nations will be just fine. Here’s how.

www.forbes.com

Ugh. Took a look at the moronic Forbes article. The guy has absolutely no clue where the issues actually are. Ugh. What has happened to Forbes? Further, any article that considers anyone who disagrees with the authors to be “haters” is obviously written by someone with the intellectual capacity of a 4 year old.

 

[Olson_jr]

Ugh. Took a look at the moronic Forbes article. The guy has absolutely no clue where the issues actually are. Ugh. What has happened to Forbes? Further, any article that considers anyone who disagrees with the authors to be “haters” is obviously written by someone with the intellectual capacity of a 4 year old.

Ok, sorry, bad choice of articles on my part. I was actually looking for one that had compared the Grid Load Increases when folks were roasting their turkeys in electric ovens on Thanksgiving, to EV charging. But I cannot find that one.

From what I have observed, when technologies change, the infrastructure to support those technologies changes with them.

When they went to catalysts to reduce air pollution and needed to change to unleaded gas there were many folks that were sure this would never happen. "Gotta have to lead to lubricate the valve seats." "What is going to happen when I try to drive across the country and can't find unleaded fuel?" "Engines will knock with unleaded gas." Now TTBOMK one cannot even buy leaded fuel.

Somewhere I read that the advent of home Air Conditioning caused concern that the grid could not take the added load. Now every home has it and my frigging neighbors never turn theirs off. Even on a perfectly beautiful, low humidity, Michigan summer morning like today.

Anyway, not here to argue my point or try to prove anything. I know that is impossible on the web anyway.

 

[mhardy6647]

Somewhere I read that the advent of home Air Conditioning caused concern that the grid could not take the added load. Now every home has it and my frigging neighbors never turn theirs off. Even on a perfectly beautiful, low humidity, Michigan summer morning like today.

Well, in much of the US, on hot days, there are real issues with brownouts, even rolling blackouts, at peak usage times. A/C (presumably) plays a role in that.
The good ol' Second Law of Thermodynamics bites us yet again when it comes to cooling as opposed to heating. It's baked in* to the nature of physical reality in this universe.

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* See what I did there? 🤭

 

[MikeyFresh]

The good ol' Second Law of Thermodynamics bites us yet again when it comes to cooling as opposed to heating. It's baked in* to the nature of physical reality in this universe.

Far out, I think I need a geothermal heat pump to face that reality.

 

[prime minister]

Ok, sorry, bad choice of articles on my part. I was actually looking for one that had compared the Grid Load Increases when folks were roasting their turkeys in electric ovens on Thanksgiving, to EV charging. But I cannot find that one.

From what I have observed, when technologies change, the infrastructure to support those technologies changes with them.

When they went to catalysts to reduce air pollution and needed to change to unleaded gas there were many folks that were sure this would never happen. "Gotta have to lead to lubricate the valve seats." "What is going to happen when I try to drive across the country and can't find unleaded fuel?" "Engines will knock with unleaded gas." Now TTBOMK one cannot even buy leaded fuel.

Somewhere I read that the advent of home Air Conditioning caused concern that the grid could not take the added load. Now every home has it and my frigging neighbors never turn theirs off. Even on a perfectly beautiful, low humidity, Michigan summer morning like today.

Anyway, not here to argue my point or try to prove anything. I know that is impossible on the web anyway.

I'm not suggesting it can't be done. It just isn't being done. And no one is talking seriously about doing it. All we have right now is for show. Politicians or corporations making themselves look good. These are large, long term Projects that need to be engineered, not announced. The change to unleaded gas and catalytic converters was childishly simple compared to this.
Realistically, this is a far bigger, and dramatically, orders of magnitude, more expensive project then the LA to SF high speed rail line. How's that working?

 

[prime minister]

Far out, I think I need a geothermal heat pump to face that reality.

I met with a manufacturer of a new Geothermal heating technology a few weeks ago. Their big change is that it needs to go no where near as deep into the ground. The savings potential is huge, but the interest so far has been very limited. I hope it takes off.

 

[mhardy6647]

The Second Law applies to geothermal, too, unfortunately.
Fortunately, locally... it doesn't much matter (i.e., it's a pretty good deal for humans during the short span of our dominance, if any, in the Universe).
It does still contributes to the so-called heat death of the Universe... but that's OK, since that will come a long time after our species has hit the dusty trail.

Geothermal works pretty well here in Northern New England (I know that at least one of the local SET gurus has geothermal heat) but the cost of entry, so to speak, is high, since the ground is mostly granite. Well... we take it for granite.