Finding my way home (The 20 - 21 Analog upgrade plan)

Note the bit about counterfeits:

i guess that one knows that one's audio company has "made it" when the products get counterfeited.

for better or worse, cables seem especially amenable to counterfeiting - it seems fairly easy to make "copies."
 
Assuming that the cables pedigree is not in question. It would appear to be a better cable than the Cardas Phono box. However, the Phonobox is a convenient Din to RCA input adapter with Cardas wiring. Honestly not sure which way to go.
 
Assuming that the cables pedigree is not in question. It would appear to be a better cable than the Cardas Phono box. However, the Phonobox is a convenient Din to RCA input adapter with Cardas wiring. Honestly not sure which way to go.
I don't see why you'd want to put another connection in line with the extremely low phono signal in the form of the Cardas box, if you don't have to, and can just run a DIN from arm to preamp. It seems a needless step.
 
I don't see why you'd want to put another connection in line with the extremely low phono signal in the form of the Cardas box, if you don't have to, and can just run a DIN from arm to preamp. It seems a needless step.

I was thinking about the convenience of running my own interconnects. But I did not think about the added connections piece of it. This is why I love to float these ideas to the Haven.
 
I was thinking about the convenience of running my own interconnects. But I did not think about the added connections piece of it. This is why I love to float these ideas to the Haven.
Theoretically it could affect sound, in practice? Does it? Some say it does some say it doesn't. The VPI Classic I used to have had a junction box and it was nice to run regular rca cables. But I also have a fancy WyWires DIN cable for my current table and ...its the one cable where I feel it really does sound better than the 3 other DIN options I have around here. I say get the nice DIN cable but I also don't 'roll' tonearm cables at all, more a set it and forget it thing around here.
 
Theoretically it could affect sound, in practice? Does it? Some say it does some say it doesn't.

am predicting that cable connectors are going to become a bigger audiophile thing. if people are using thousand dollar cables, why not engineer some multi-hundred dollar spades/bananas/new-types to enhance all that cable-ing? shapes. materials. cryo. etc.

perhaps its already happening and im just not aware of it.

the thought of doing a connector shoot-out sounds like drudgery, but i would read a review of someone else's connector shootout.
 
am predicting that cable connectors are going to become a bigger audiophile thing. if people are using thousand dollar cables, why not engineer some multi-hundred dollar spades/bananas/new-types to enhance all that cable-ing? shapes. materials. cryo. etc.

perhaps its already happening and im just not aware of it.

the thought of doing a connector shoot-out sounds like drudgery, but i would read a review of someone else's connector shootout.
Well... I'm sitting here with fancy binding post straps on my bi-wirable speakers. And they're actually the 2nd option I tried on them, the first being just silver tie-bars. And fancy connectors do exist though the generally seem to be OEM things of good quality with the predicable upcharge. There's locking RCAs, too. Those are fun. I've seriously damaged gear trying to pull them off. No more of that.
 
Well... I'm sitting here with fancy binding post straps on my bi-wirable speakers. And they're actually the 2nd option I tried on them, the first being just silver tie-bars. And fancy connectors do exist though the generally seem to be OEM things of good quality with the predicable upcharge. There's locking RCAs, too. Those are fun. I've seriously damaged gear trying to pull them off. No more of that.
I had a set of locking RCAs once as well. Not for long, mind you....
 
I was not under the impression that the Furutech cable had death grip connectors. Is that the case?
 
No I don’t think it does. I was just replying to the comment above on audiophile connectors existing. The furatech cable looks nice.
 
I was not under the impression that the Furutech cable had death grip connectors. Is that the case?
The RCA's listed for that cable are the model FP-126 (R), and my recent phono cable acquisition uses Furutech FP-126 (G). They looks to be the same connector, just the former is rhodium plated, and the latter is gold plated. Nice connectors, have only installed once though so no impressions about use on multiple devices.
 
So I will be getting this Cable as a package deal with the Tonearm I am picking up for this project. I am super excited about it, but also a bit conflicted. I am however going to throw a Hail Mary on this one and hope it lands right.

Originally, I wanted an arm with removable headshells as I thought I wanted to have the option to mount different carts. A Technics EPA, New Jelco TK series and a Vintage SAEC were all contenders. I ruled out the SAEC because of its alleged strange geometry and the fact that they are vintage and probably in need of a refresh. And I need another component to be refreshed or rebuilt like I need a new hole in my head.

I keep missing out on the EPA arms. The good ones go quickly. The shady ones appear to be overpriced, but my main concern is condition. I may still get one just to experience the hype for myself. But I am forgoing the Technics EPA arms for the moment. And when I do decide to get one, it will probably be one of the more moderately priced ones like the EPA-100.

The newer Jelco was seriously a contender. New and allegedly quite good. But not well reviewed or spoken about by owners. Just not enough out there about them.

But then this arm came up, and while it admittedly met none of my criteria, was too much of a wow factor to pass up. Unfortunately this Tonearm will remain anonymous for the moment until I lock it down ( don't want to jinx myself). It’s relatively local to me for an absurdly low price (relatively speaking....its still an absurd amount of money).

The only issue is that carts are fixed to the arm wand. So if I want to get frisky and swap carts, I would have to buy multiple wands........which are not necessarily cheap. I hope I get it as it will be just down right cool.
 
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So I will be getting this Cable as a package deal with the Tonearm I am picking up for this project. I am super excited about it, but also a bit conflicted. I am however going to throw a Hail Mary on this one and hope it lands right.

Originally, I wanted an arm with removable headshells as I thought I wanted to have the option to mount different carts. A Technics EPA, New Jelco TK series and a Vintage SAEC were all contenders. I ruled out the SAEC because of its alleged strange geometry and the fact that they are vintage and probably in need of a refresh. And I need another component to be refreshed or rebuilt like I need a new hole in my head.

I keep missing out on the EPA arms. The good ones go quickly. The shady ones appear to be overpriced, but my main concern is condition. I may still get one just to experience the hype for myself. But I am forgoing the Technics EPA arms for the moment. And when I do decide to get one, it will probably be one of the more moderately priced ones like the EPA-100.

The newer Jelco was seriously a contender. New and allegedly quite good. But not well reviewed or spoken about by owners. Just not enough out there about them.

But then this arm came up, and while it admittedly met none of my criteria, was too much of a wow factor to pass up. Unfortunately this Tonearm will remain anonymous for the moment until I lock it down ( don't want to jinx myself). It’s relatively local to me for an absurdly low price (relatively speaking....its still an absurd amount of money).

The only issue is that carts are fixed to the arm wand. So if I want to get frisky and swap carts, I would have to buy multiple wands........which are not necessarily cheap. I hope I get it as it will be just down right cool.
Ooo, I love a little mystery! Just watched an episode of Sherlock, so we're all primed.
 
Now I'm all hmmm....what uses arm wands. Its not an EPA so that rules out the EPA-500. VPI uses arm wands but at least the current arms don't use DIN cables...
 
On another front. I have started talking to a plinth builder and am super excited about what and how this is going to turn out. I decided to stick with the wood theme around here and go with Rosewood. I am awaiting the final tally for the build, but I am sure it will not be cheap. But It will be beautiful and that is a real desire with this table.

Speaking of Beautiful. Any Idea where I can find a Copper or Gunmetal Mat? I would love an Oyaide MJ-12. But they are no longer made and hard to find apparently.
 
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On another front. I have started talking to a plinth builder and am super excited about what and how this is going to turn out. I decided to stoke with the wood theme around here and go with Rosewood. I am awaiting the final tally for the build, but I am sure it will not be cheap. But It will be beautiful and that is a real desire with this table.

Speaking of Beautiful. Any Idea where I can find a Copper or Gunmetal Mat? I would love an Oyaide MJ-12. But they are no longer made and hard to find apparently.
Is this a thing of interest ?

 
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