I did make that mistake at first as the 5100 never opened the drawer and didn't respond to the flash drive being inserted at all. The Dropbox interface IS a little confusing but the posts made it pretty clear as to what the flash drive was supposed to look like. I think the problem will be with port 2002 being blocked. 1st thing on my list to check when I get home!
Rip SACD with a Blu-ray player
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Ok... is the port TCP or UDP ? I have opened both in windows, router, and Norton. Even disabled norton and rebooted PC. Started 5100 and went through procedure and waited for it to stop flashing "OFF" and hit execute. This time the 5100 made some noise and the display said "wait". Then I got the same error.
Try a full power cycle of the S5100, first remove the USB thumb drive and then use the Power Off button, followed by a physical unplugging of the power cord.
Then reconnect the power cord, turn Power On, wait for boot sequence to finish, insert USB thumb drive, place SACD in tray, Power Off, pause for sleep, Execute.
I do not know if the port is TCP or UDP but I don't think you need to worry about that, for testing purposes just keep the Norton disabled and maybe also lower the Windows firewall (Defender).
Which version of Windows is this? If it's Windows 10 Home Edition that's most likely the problem, and it is not exactly easy/straightforward to fix that heavy handed security lock down.
This sort of thing seems to never happen on a Mac, suggesting it is not likely a router based port block, but some firewall interaction in Windows Defender and/or Norton.
Then reconnect the power cord, turn Power On, wait for boot sequence to finish, insert USB thumb drive, place SACD in tray, Power Off, pause for sleep, Execute.
I do not know if the port is TCP or UDP but I don't think you need to worry about that, for testing purposes just keep the Norton disabled and maybe also lower the Windows firewall (Defender).
Which version of Windows is this? If it's Windows 10 Home Edition that's most likely the problem, and it is not exactly easy/straightforward to fix that heavy handed security lock down.
This sort of thing seems to never happen on a Mac, suggesting it is not likely a router based port block, but some firewall interaction in Windows Defender and/or Norton.
The display should not say Wait. Once the machine is in sleep mode, the display stays dark throughout.
I did as you suggested with same results. The wait thing only happened once and I may have not done something right. Windows defender has been disabled since I use Norton. Windows version is 7 Pro. I have another flash drive, I think I might try starting from scratch again and see what happens
I don't think you need to open ports on the router as that doesn't typically affect the LAN. And opening that to the WAN is probably not desirable. You may need to add the app your using as trusted in the windows firewall, if memory serves.
Congrats and way to stay at it!
There are definitely reports of certain flash drives simply just not working. I don't know why that would be, but you aren't the first one to say that by a long shot.
Once again congrats and welcome to HFH!
There are definitely reports of certain flash drives simply just not working. I don't know why that would be, but you aren't the first one to say that by a long shot.
Once again congrats and welcome to HFH!
I was having issues not being able to rip with my Oppo 105D. I was using the instructions on the Computeraudiophile.com thread. But no matter what I tried it failed to connect. The only change I made was downloading the script from the link above instead of the link provided on the other sites thread. Something in the other script just would not work with my system and player.
Thanks so much for posting this.
Welcome to HFH Wedge, congrats on sticking with this and finding what you needed here.
Likely that other script you had was modified, either unintentionally where it was then broken by someone (a stray keystone is all it takes inside the script itself), or intentionally set-up to invoke a TELNET session to execute the ripping commands via the Command Line Interface, and thus it no longer works with the GUI.
Either way you have it going now, congrats again and it's our pleasure.
Thank you!
Any good DSF to WAV converters to trust? I want to test the files and some of the SACDs require gapless playback. Oppo 105 only does gapless in WAV. Until I get a dedicated media player I still want to try them out!
Any good DSF to WAV converters to trust? I want to test the files and some of the SACDs require gapless playback. Oppo 105 only does gapless in WAV. Until I get a dedicated media player I still want to try them out!
Mac or Windows?
Mac running 10.10.5 Yosemite. Or, because I have it, running snow leopard 10.6 or El Cap.
Got a lot of Macs around here. Good for some things not so good for DSF or FLAC
Got a lot of Macs around here. Good for some things not so good for DSF or FLAC
On a Mac I'd use XLD (for free), or BitPerfect+DSD Master (at a price) if you can make further use of it, for instance the iTunes plug-in might be of interest/utility.
XLD has been great freeware for many years, I'd start there.
XLD has been great freeware for many years, I'd start there.
Thanks. Free is best, I don't have many DSD files. Didn't like paying the premium for most of the SACDs, some at $60 each or more, for the stuff I liked a lot. It is sad that they release SACD Hybrids and then discontinue them, drives the after market price up so much. There was a whole set of Peter Gabriel SACDs and they are all discontinued.
I believe those were released in the U.K. only, but perhaps other parts of Europe too. They went out of print very quickly.
I tried my first SACD rips on Saturday and it went well. I'm using a Sony BDP-S5100 (That just happened to be sitting in the family room connected to that TV. How's that for luck? It was immediately "confiscated" for SACD ripping.) Rip speed is 2.3 MB/sec which is adequate for me. Thanks to Mike and all of you who have participated in this thread as you have been extremely helpful. One issue and a question:
Issue: After several rips (4 or more), the machine will make a "fart" upon inserting a disc and ISO2DSD no longer recognizes the IP address. The work-around is to simply unplug the player; re-plug it; insert the AutoScript USB and then start ripping again. I'm just wondering if there is something funky with the player or the ISO2DSD or is it the router interface just being temperamental?
Question: I would like to rip the multichannel tracks. I see from post #174 that this can be done with ISO2DSD. I also see from an earlier post that the multichannel tracks can be ripped directly to dsf files without creating an ISO. But post #168 suggests ripping from the ISO using DVD AudioExtractor to FLAC. So, my question is: Is there a current best practices that yields the best sounding files? I don't want to try the sacd extractor...too much technology for a skill only learned just two days ago. Thanks.
Issue: After several rips (4 or more), the machine will make a "fart" upon inserting a disc and ISO2DSD no longer recognizes the IP address. The work-around is to simply unplug the player; re-plug it; insert the AutoScript USB and then start ripping again. I'm just wondering if there is something funky with the player or the ISO2DSD or is it the router interface just being temperamental?
Question: I would like to rip the multichannel tracks. I see from post #174 that this can be done with ISO2DSD. I also see from an earlier post that the multichannel tracks can be ripped directly to dsf files without creating an ISO. But post #168 suggests ripping from the ISO using DVD AudioExtractor to FLAC. So, my question is: Is there a current best practices that yields the best sounding files? I don't want to try the sacd extractor...too much technology for a skill only learned just two days ago. Thanks.
I can only speak for the "issue" portion of your post. I have to do the same thing with my Sony s590. I wouldn't worry about it.
Welcome to HFH @AR Surround , I'm glad you found us and have successfully ripped some SACDs!
Always great when you have the bits you need on hand already, that old S5100 is coming in very handy right about now!
In terms of the issue you are reporting, try this: after a full power cycle and the machine has rebooted, once you get the tray to automatically open and you then put the unit to sleep, just remove the USB thumb drive entirely.
It seems in some cases repeated reading of the AutoScript eventually results in the unit going into some non-cooperative mode. The fact is you don't need to leave the thumb drive inserted, it can be removed and you can continue ripping discs one after the other, simply load a new disc in, and Power OFF again. This is likely the issue. If not it becomes much tougher to diagnose, for instance if in fact your router is for whatever reason rescinding the DHCP lease, that's a network issue and likely has zero to do with the S5100.
Of course every time you do a full power cycle your router is likely to issue a new IP, but that's probably unrelated to what is going on with the S5100. Just remove the USB thumb drive and I bet that stops happening, the AutoScript need only be read in one time with each ripping session.
As far as the multichannel track ripping question, just use ISO2DSD and you can either rip them straight to .dsf, or if you've already created an ISO you can use that to extract the multichannel tracks too and it's actually much faster because you do not have the speed bottleneck of the Blu-ray optical drive involved.
Post #168 you refer to is a bit confusing, he is referring to using DVD AudioExtractor to pull the multichannel tracks off an SACD-R, which is a disc he burned as a full archival back-up using a DVD-R blank. Thats an entirely different scenario and can be fully disregarded here unless of course you have a want to create physical media back-up discs.
That particular member uses those discs not only as full archival back-ups, but he actually plays them too. Most people don't do that. Anyway, use of the DVD-AudioExtractor program is only relevant in that context, you can't use that application to rip from an actual SACD, only from SACD-R which is effectively an ISO burned to a DVD-R blank media.
Have you already created the ISO of an SACD with multichannel tracks on it?
If so that post #174 you mentioned details the configuration and steps involved to extract the multichannel tracks from that ISO, no need to pull out the SACD again. If on the other hand you originally ripped the stereo straight to .dsf, you'll need to use the SACD again inside the Blu-ray player to get at the multichannel tracks.
Neither method results in tracks that sound any different, both are bit perfect, it's just a matter of preference. Some people prefer ripping straight to .dsf while others prefer to make a full archival ISO and then extract the .dsf from that.
Try removing the thumb drive as described above to see if that alleviates that problem.
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